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    Default Migrant caravan heads north as Trump threatens to stop

    4 hours ago - A caravan of migrants from Honduras continued north towards Mexico and the United States Tuesday as Trump threatened to withdraw aid ...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...nduras-n920806



    Trump Threatens to Punish Honduras Over Immigrant Caravan

    12 hours ago - More than 1500 mostly Honduran migrants are in Guatemala,
    heading to the United States. President Trump has warned Honduras he might ...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/w...t-caravan.html

    Another migrant caravan is heading to the US. Trump has already ...

    56 mins ago - Trump tweets again, saying aid to El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras could stop; Guatemalan authorities have detained one of the caravan's ...
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/ameri...van/index.html

    With new caravan coming from Honduras, Trump issues fresh threat to ...
    13 hours ago - President Trump on Tuesday offered a fresh threat to cut off aid to Honduras if a large caravan of migrants continues heading toward the United ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ab1_story.html


    Trump threatens to cut aid to Honduras over migrants - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45880621

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    Hang out the 'No Vacancy' sign.

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    DYK:

    Obama budget to include $1 billion for Central America - Reuters
    Jan 29, 2015 - ... budget on Monday will include $1 billion in new aid for Central America as part of a ... Guatemala's President Otto Perez Molina gives his annual state of the ... last year of tens of thousands of illegal migrants from Honduras, ...
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0L22M920150130

    Congress and State Department at odds over $55 million in aid for ...
    Oct 25, 2016 - Press Releases · Staff Directory · Giving ... For Honduras to receive its portion of about $55 million, however, it had to prove to U.S. ... "Over the past 25 years, the United States has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in aid ... put Vice President Joe Biden in charge of it, and last year asked for $1 billion.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-...nap-story.html


    Drug Money: Obama's Reckless $1 Billion Payout to Central America ...

    Feb 18, 2015 - It's not clear how giving $1 billion to Central American governments would somehow ... counternarcotic campaigns against the cartels using U.S. aid, as occurred in Mexico. ... In 2014, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras combined spent ... the revenues of TCOs could reach up to $39 billion annually.
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    Billions in U.S. Aid to Honduras Saw Little Long-Term Success - WSJ
    Jul 2, 1997 - U.S. economic aid to Honduras has dropped to $28 million this year from .... In Danli, Mayor Avila gives his new benefactors their due when ...
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    Obama's Billion Dollar Aid Request to Central America: How Has it ...

    Nov 17, 2015 - Last February, the Obama administration requested US$1 billion in 2016 assistance for Central America as part of next year's foreign aid budget proposal. ... the “Northern Triangle” countries of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. ... The White House request had sought to give this program the largest ...
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    7 Reasons to Scrap the $1 Billion Aid Package to Central America

    Jul 8, 2015 - This summer, Congress will decide whether to support the $1 billion aid package to Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras. ... last year, the “Strategy for Engagement in Central America” aims to ... fact that the aid package “only” gives about a third of the entire package to the countries' militaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    A new migrant caravan is heading to the United States. And US President Donald Trump has already weighed in, threatening to cut foreign aid to Honduras if the group isn't brought back to the Central American country.

    The caravan, which organizers say numbers thousands of people, formed in the Honduran city of San Pedro Sula on Saturday and crossed into Guatemala on Monday.
    Guatemala detained one of the caravan's coordinators on Tuesday, a Guatemalan government source told CNN. But other members of the caravan were still trekking north.

    The big question: Will authorities detain them before they reach the US border?

    Members of the group told CNN en Español that they decided to join the caravan and head to the United States because of insecurity and a lack of jobs in Honduras. Many are traveling with children in tow.
    As local media documented the first steps of the group's journey over the weekend, government officials across the region spoke out, advising them to turn back.

    The US Embassy in Honduras warned of the dangers of the journey and noted that the United States would enforce its immigration laws. Mexico's foreign ministry released a statement noting that travelers should consult its migration laws before trying to enter.

    "Please bear in mind that current legislation does not permit entry into Mexico if requirements to travel to a neighboring country have not been met," the statement said. "To avoid surprises, please inform yourself before starting out."

    But the caravan continued undeterred.

    Police in Esquipulas, Guatemala, about 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the border, blocked their path for nearly two hours on Monday, according to local media reports, but eventually allowed them to continue their journey after the migrants refused to turn back.

    Bartolo Fuentes, one of the coordinators of the caravan, told CNN on Monday the group planned to apply for humanitarian visas in Mexico that would allow them to travel through the country to the US border.
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    Six months ago, another high-profile caravan headed to the border

    This caravan's emergence comes nearly six months after another caravan consisting largely of Honduran immigrants reached the US-Mexico border.
    That group's approach sparked a Twitter tirade by Trump, and days later spurred his decision to deploy National Guard troops to the US-Mexico border. Trump also threatened foreign aid to Honduras at that time.
    Ultimately, hundreds of migrants from that group crossed the US border and asked for asylum.
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    I hope every one of them makes it safely within the borders of their new nation, I welcome them gladly. If they have to violate illegitimate laws promulgated by our illegitimate dictator in order to do so, I encourage them. The laws themselves are illegal, not these people. Trump is illegal, not these heroes and future Americans who will be a thousand times more successful than the illegitimate fascists who voted for Trump out of spite, ignorance, and cruelty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    'No Mas Personas'.
    No more Trump supporters

    Hondurans should take any means necessary to take residence in their rightful nation. All Republican attempts to stop them are illegitimate, any rioting Republican thugs ("border patrol") should be avoided. This is a pressing issue, we must take all measures necessary to drown out the voice of evil Republican fascists. Not a single Republican fascists can be allowed to remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Hang out the 'No Vacancy' sign.
    Agreed, let's hang out a sign. That is the only action we should take. I will greet my new compatriots at the border with a hug, and spit on the treasonous traitor Trumps fascist thugs who betray the nation.
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    Guatemalan police checkpoint

    If they were really afraid for their lives they would stay in Guatemala or Mexico - except those countries
    aren't stupid like we are. They know they migrants don't want that -they want the USA- and those countries enable them.

    We should start cutting off foreign aid to those governments until they stop the caravans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White privilege is real View Post
    No more Trump supporters

    Hondurans should take any means necessary to take residence in their rightful nation. All Republican attempts to stop them are illegitimate, any rioting Republican thugs ("border patrol") should be avoided. This is a pressing issue, we must take all measures necessary to drown out the voice of evil Republican fascists. Not a single Republican fascists can be allowed to remain.
    We have a difference of opinion. I support 'No Immigration'. You support "What's wrong with importing a million Chinese Coolies".
    YOU want to crush American Workers with 'Third World Labor'. I support 'American jobs for Americans'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We have a difference of opinion. I support 'No Immigration'. You support "What's wrong with importing a million Chinese Coolies".
    YOU want to crush American Workers with 'Third World Labor'. I support 'American jobs for Americans'.
    You support white supremacy

    You freak out about a small percentage of our population being immigrant because any decrease in the white population is horrid to you

    The number of immigrants is higher than it has been for a century, and unemployment is below 4%. Like how much further is it supposed to go? Immigration levels do not increase unemployment you evil economic illiterate. You are an illegal criminal for closing the border to these people out of pure resentment with no justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post

    Guatemalan police checkpoint

    If they were really afraid for their lives they would stay in Guatemala or Mexico - except those countries
    aren't stupid like we are. They know they migrants don't want that -they want the USA- and those countries enable them.

    We should start cutting off foreign aid to those governments until they stop the caravans.
    Because the US is incredibly selfish, and closes its border to children being chopped up during an economic boom and with an unemployment rate below 4%, purely out of hatred of the color of their skin. This evil criminal government must fall, legitimate government must be restored. Reagan would never be so evil and cruel as you criminal illegals who would deny asylum to these people purely out of bigotry and hatred. They are heroes, you are illegal criminals. All Republicans are illegal criminals, for refusing to follow the law and allow them into the US as is their right under our laws and the constitution.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by White privilege is real View Post
    You support white supremacy

    You freak out about a small percentage of our population being immigrant because any decrease in the white population is horrid to you

    The number of immigrants is higher than it has been for a century, and unemployment is below 4%. Like how much further is it supposed to go? Immigration levels do not increase unemployment you evil economic illiterate. You are an illegal criminal for closing the border to these people out of pure resentment with no justification.
    YOU hate our Black Brothers and Sisters, conspiring with Corporate America to replace Americans that have lived here for generations and replacing them with Third World Labor that YOU and your cronies can more easily control. YOUR Goal is to drive DOWN wages so YOU and your Shareholding friends can increase Profits off the backs of the NEW WAGE SLAVES!

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    "No immigration" is an insane opinion. You are an evil human being, and the sooner you are removed from the face of the Earth, the better off we will be. You are so scared of these people, so unwilling that even a single penny may possible be spent temporarily on their upkeep while they find a footing and find ways to create jobs for Americans, that you would ignore the law.

    Oh but I bet you cry all the tears in the world for South African Whites. Because you are a white supremacist first and foremost. No expense will be spared for the White South Africans. But if you lose even a penny, even theoretically, to keep a child from being beheaded, you couldn't care any less in the world. You laugh and spin the penny just because it's one less colored child! Because you are an evil criminal illegal monster!

    The people who would ignore our asylum laws to close the border to these immiogrants should be considered as war criminals. It's a crime against humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    YOU hate our Black Brothers and Sisters, conspiring with Corporate America to replace Americans that have lived here for generations and replacing them with Third World Labor that YOU and your cronies can more easily control. YOUR Goal is to drive DOWN wages so YOU and your Shareholding friends can increase Profits off the backs of the NEW WAGE SLAVES!
    Can you point out any correlation ever with immigration and wage levels? No you cannot. Because no such correlation exists. There is not a lump of labor which immigrants steal. Immigrants increase the size of the economy and produce at the rate of natives. There is no loss at all. You want children beheaded, even though it will cost America in the long run, even though it will result in a smaller and poorer economy in the long run, purely because your a white supremacist. YOu are a war criminal and an illegal.
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