Reply With QuoteUnions aren't pure evil. They are about 95% pure evil, as the Nazi Party was. National Socialists did some good, but 95% of the time what they did was bad.Originally Posted by sear
serene
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We have to read between the lines here. I'm sure RL is a decent chap. But if you (NB #615) have ever had to meet a payroll, you know what a headache it can be.
And particularly with the competitive pressures of globalization, a plant manager in Dubuque might not have an easy time competing with Malaysia.
With thin margins, and ever encroaching competitive pressures, labor unions might seem overwhelmingly antagonistic.
I'm sympathetic, even if not in agreement.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
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Unions aren't pure evil. They are about 95% pure evil, as the Nazi Party was. National Socialists did some good, but 95% of the time what they did was bad.
The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.
Thunderstruck
To finish the sentence, it would be, "Oh God, how can this be happening if you are real?"
That's basically the biggest reason people give up believing in dragons. They have an angelic five year old who gets raped and murdered and all the priest can say is, "Er... the Dragon works in mysterious ways..."
The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.
Gotcha68 (10-21-2018)
serene
RL #618
I'm not religious.
But I know some that are.
And a subset of them seem to thrive, not merely despite it, but perhaps to some unknown degree, because of it.
Sir Isaac Newton thought he'd defined physics fairly well. His 3 laws of motion are about the most recent laws I know of.
Then Einstein came along and blue Newton's doors in.
Does it matter?
Maybe there really is NOT such a thing as a talking serpent, or a pregnant virgin. So?
Religious persons can still get dressed up, go to church, mosque or synagogue, receive inspiration, and maintain their social ties to their community.
"god works in wondrous ways."
I don't begrudge anyone. To paraphrase Dr. Joy Browne, even if it means shoving an M&M up their nose, if it works for them, fine.
But I confess my own preference for reality-based belief systems; even at the expense of social isolation. Perhaps that's why I post in these fora. On line vs in church, I don't have to worry whether Mr. Larmer has had a bath this month. Pew!
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to this thread, or even your own argument.
I have already listed evidence for both cases. Argument of the stone fallacy.
Void argument fallacy.
Argument of ignorance fallacy.
Argument of ignorance fallacy.
Science doesn't address the issue. Science is agnostic.
There is no such thing as 'scientific' evidence. There is only evidence. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. It has nothing to do with the existence or non-existence of any god or gods.
Darth Omar (10-21-2018)
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Newton created only one law of motion and only one theory of motion. That law is F=mA.
Einstein didn't falsify any of Newton's theories. We still use Newton's theories to this day.
High Level of Addiction
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I'd like to think that we can all agree that...
...everything I have said in this thread is absolutely correct...
...and anything anyone else has said that disagrees with what I have said...is wrong.
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For people who don't give a fuck, you all certainly spend a hell of a lot of time telling us about why we are going to end up there...and the amount of joy that will give you because we dared not believe in your fairy tale and your chosen god hates not being believed in.
Retired Teacher
It's fine if you don't believe any more.... but you sure spend a great deal of time berating those who do...For people who don't give a fuck, you all certainly spend a hell of a lot of time telling us about why we are going to end up there...and the amount of joy that will give you because we dared not believe in your fairy tale and your chosen god hates not being believed in.
RB 60 (10-21-2018)
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This whole thread could be synopsized in the last sentence lol.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
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A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. - Bruce Lee
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As a wise man I have yet to learn anything from your foolish questions or statements.
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You sir have the ramblings of a diseased mind.
serene
Sir Isaac's 3 laws of motion are:"Newton created only one law of motion and only one theory of motion. That law is F=mA." IN #621
1st Law of Motion: If the vector sum of the forces acting on an object is zero, then the velocity change of the object will remain zero (leaving it at rest if it is at rest, and leaving it at its velocity if it is not).
2nd Law of Motion: F=M A
The total force acting on an object is equal to the object's acceleration times its mass. A net force on an object will accelerate that object at a rate proportional to the strength of and in the same direction as that force. Thus, if a force acts on two objects of different mass, the one with a larger mass will have a lower acceleration. In the international system of units, the unit of force is the newton, which is the amount of force that gives an object with a mass of 1 kg an acceleration of 1 m/sec2.
3rd Law of Motion: Every action has an opposite and equal reaction, conserving both linear and angular momentum.
I didn't assert "falsification"."Einstein didn't falsify any of Newton's theories." IN #621
My wording was deliberately more subtle: "Then Einstein came along and blue Newton's doors in." Please note the deliberately whimsical mis-spelling of the word blew to emphasize the point.
I know. I took the course at university. BUT !! In astrophysics we use Newton's laws of motion sparingly, as their precision diverges at great speed or powerful gravity, as both "slow down time", relativistically speaking."We still use Newton's theories to this day." IN #621
Bottom line, many persons imagine there's a set of laws science understands, that govern our cosmos.
That's wrong.
Nuclear physics operates by rules that don't apply in Newton's world, or Einstein's for that matter.
So we know there are at least 3 different sets of rules. But there are still observed phenomena our 3 rule books can't account for. The accelerating expansion of our cosmos is near the top of that list.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
fully immersed in faith..
Newton didn't create anything.......he merely noticed it......
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