‘There is NO GOD’ Stephen Hawking’s final revelation of the afterlife REVEALED

[Into the Night]

Hitler’s National Socialist Worker’s Party (The Nazi Party) nationalized factories, took over companies, dictated production to private corporations, set price and wage controls, destroyed large retail outlets, maintained universal health care, placed limits on stock dividends, controlled capital and the means of production. The Socialist label Hitler picked was very deliberately chosen, for very clear reasons.

For those who say that Hitler hated other socialists; so what? Hating other socialists doesn’t cancel out one’s socialism, just as hating other capitalists doesn’t cancel out one’s capitalism. Also, there are different types of socialists. Stalin killed Trotsky. Because the Nazis killed certain socialists is no argument that they themselves weren't socialists. Who says that socialist A can't kill socialist B? It happens throughout modern history.

As to the "outlawing of labor unions", this is evidence the Nazis were central planners. When a central government bans or outlaws any non-violent activity, it is evidence of central planning, not some free market or unregulated society.

Quite often Socialists purge or murder various groups, minorities and races. Hitler did this with Jews, blacks, gypsies, and others. The Soviet Union did the same with different groups, including Jews. Mao purged various groups too, as did Kim.

“In November 1948, Soviet authorities launched a campaign to liquidate what was left of Jewish culture. The leading members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee were arrested. They were charged with treason, bourgeois nationalism and planning to set up a Jewish republic in Crimea to serve American interests. The Museum of Environmental Knowledge of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (established in November 1944) and The Jewish Museum in Vilnius (established at the end of the war) were closed down in 1948. The Historical-Ethnographic Museum of Georgian Jewry, established in 1933, was shut down at the end of 1951.”

Stalin and antisemitism - Wikipedia

Nazis took over the means of production. Some examples include Junkers Flugzeug.

Junkers - Wikipedia

There was the automobile industry:

"Hitler envisioned widespread car ownership as part of the new Germany. He arranged for designer Ferdinand Porsche to draw up plans for the KdF-wagen (Strength Through Joy car), intended to be an automobile that every German citizen could afford."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Wage and price controls.

"Göring instituted wage and price controls and restricted the issuance of stock dividends."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Controlling retail stores

“The Nazis were determined to eliminate the presence of large department stores (many of which were owned by Jews), and began to implement policies to curb their influence and expansion. Strict licensing requirements and temporary bans (all of which became permanent even after their expiry date) were passed which had an immediate effect on retail."

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Dictating to industry

Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[37] However, the government in Berlin banned many types of vehicles and allowed the production of only 19 different models of cars and trucks.[38] This decreased consumer choice and profits, and combined with rubber shortages to create what an American observer called, “drastic restrictions on the use of motor vehicles”.

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Let’s not forget Germany's Universal Health Care, which the Nazis kept.

After WWII, Socialists in the West were very embarrassed by revelations about National Socialist Hitler’s atrocities. They scurried to distance themselves from him, by labeling him a “right winged fascist.” This was to protect the Left from his actions. This was okay as long as the Liberal media were in charge of information, but when the internet came along, the myth was exposed. Today many millions are setting the record straight online. A Bing search brings up millions of results.

Nice comprehensive description of what the NAZI party was, and who Hitler was.

[USFREEDOM911]

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). it is not possible to prove any god or gods exist.
The Theory of Creation is but one theory about the origin of life on Earth. The other is the Theory of Abiogenesis. Neither theory is a theory of science. Both theories remain circular arguments...and religions.

BTW, the Theory of Creation does not even require a god as the 'intelligence'. For all we know, we could be the result of some horrible accident in an alien lab and they dumped it on Earth to get rid of it.

Where did this "alien lab" come from and how did those "aliens" come into existence??

[USFREEDOM911]

Heh. Fairly true, although I might point out that they may not have seen the answer, blinded by their own pride.

True and it reminds me of a "story".

There was a flood and people were evacuating.
One man decided to stay and pretty soon the water surrounded his home.
A man in a canoe came by and told him - "Get in, I've got room for you and I'll take you to safety".
The man said - "No thanks, I'm putting my trust in the Lord".

Pretty soon the water go higher and he went to the second floor.
A man in a rowboat came by, with several other people in it, and told him - "Get in, I've got room for you and I'll take you to safety.".
The man said - "No thanks, I'm putting my trust in the Lord.".

The water kept climbing and eventually the man had to get on his roof.
A man in a speedboat came by, with several other people in it, and told him - "You're the last one left; get in, I've got room for you and I'll take you to safety.".
The man said - "No thanks, I'm putting my trust in the Lord.".

The water kept climbing and the man eventually drowned.

As he was standing by the Pearly Gates, he complained to God - "I put my trust in you, why didn't you save me?".
And God replied - "I sent three boats.".

[sear]

"I find your observations nothing short of disgusting." M #665

Noted.
However I also note, "disgusting", the exact word you've chosen & used, is not a synonym for incorrect.
So you're not disputing my account, merely confessing "I find your observations nothing short of disgusting."
I'd invite you to refute any fact you believe I've stated in error. But if you could do that you'd already have done so. So what you're hinting at is that you find a reliable accounting of history "disgusting".
Perhaps you're right. Torquemada paved the way for ISIL, in chronology if not ideology / methodology.

"The acceleration rate of science with the DEATH of religion has been exponential." M

Oh?
We'd need a precise definition of terms. But I suspect there are more religionists alive today than there were when JC strode the Earth (IF JC strode the Earth at all).

"Imagine if you will where we could be already if not for the church's antipathy for science." M

I suppose that thought has crossed many a freethinker's mind. Seth MacFarlane did so in charming animation.

BUT !!

I've never seen a one-sided coin.
Where would science be without great scientific contributors like Sir Isaac Newton?

"Scientists had to censor their own work not to be killed by christians. Yuck." M #666 (savor the irony)

In some rare cases perhaps.
But your free-floating, un-articulated resentment seems akin to that of jilted lover more than acknowledgement of history.

In any case, even if Sir Isaac did feel some pressure to avoid appearing to be religiously incorrect, I seriously doubt that explains why Newton listed his fundamental of physics with three laws, rather than the one (singular) insisted upon earlier in this thread.

Please note, for the remainder of this post IN #671 takes both sides of the argument.

"Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). it is not possible to prove any god or gods exist." IN #671

That's a dismissal, not a logical refutation.
And not only is my proof here to fore un-assailed. It, unlike some lesser religious approaches, has utility for skeptics, agnostics, and perhaps even atheists.

"The Theory of Creation is but one theory about the origin of life on Earth. The other is the Theory of Abiogenesis. Neither theory is a theory of science. Both theories remain circular arguments...and religions." IN #671

Excellent.
You're ruled out the primary two, which means you have in mind the third and factually correct explanation. Please share.
Thanks.

"BTW, the Theory of Creation does not even require a god as the 'intelligence'. " IN #671

If you understood the proof I've already posted you wouldn't be telling me that. For if you understood the proof I've already posted, you'd then understand I've already told you that.

[sear]

"believed all of the witchdoctor's words."

I'd be careful to consider it a binary.

It's easy to "misunderestimate" the uneducated mind.
But even a few astute cave dwellers realized, skepticism is a 3rd option.

They lacked many of the mental / thinking tools we have in the 3rd millennium.

BUT !!

What resulted was they honed those fewer thinking tools they had to an even finer edge. Neville Chamberlain didn't invent appeasement. He just shmeared a more vivid shade of lipstick on it.

[Frank Apisa]

News flash: Hitler was an extreme left wing SOCIALIST that despised free market capitalism, the successful wealthy. Not to mention his polices mirror today's progressive (wink, wink) left wing social policies in the USA. Hitler attempted to create jobs through the state, infrastructure SHOVEL READY JOBS (sound familiar?), promising state sponsored day care for women who had to go into the work force, STATE CONTROLLED EDUCATION for the children, Nationalized healthcare for all.....(the similarities are scary with today's democrat party), GUN CONTROL, Eugenics...i.e., state sponsored abortion and rejection of those less desirable children,

…………..MY FAVORITE, blaming the 1%ers, the wealthy JEWS for all of Germany's problems, (again, it sends a shiver up my spine just looking at the mirrored history of NAZISM and PROGRESSIVISM today). And now....just like HITLER'S NAZI PARTY, the left in the US is guilty of turning the Federal police forces into weapons to attack and destroy anyone opposed to their ideology. Moles in the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, etc., have been found guilty of abusing their government office power to target political opponents.


Its clear HITLER WAS A PROPONENT OF "BIG GOVERNMENT" and an open enemy of free market capitalism. What is the difference in National Socialism and Socialism? SEMANTICS. A lying dog is a lying dog however one wishes to describe it. You can spray a pile of shit with perfume.....but in the end it just smells like shit with perfume on it. State controlled banking system. (Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac anyone, the progressive FED anyone?)


You can't rewrite history, you can't revise TRUTH. Truth is documented.....propaganda runs from truth.

Hitler was NOT a socialist.

The war movement of Germany was borne by capitalism.

You do not know what you are talking about.

And you support Donald Trump who is acting more like Adolf Hitler with each passing day.

[moon]

Some crazed religions believe that ' god ' views them as ' chosen ' and born to rule. These crazies do not simply comtain their beliefs harmlessly but create mayhem by attempting to manifest their delusions in the physical world.

Did you know that Stephen Hawking was very popular with the Palestinians- almost revered ? He must have been very unpopular with neoZionists and their Evangelical backers.

How Stephen Hawking supported the Palestinian cause

The renowned scientist, who has passed away, will be remembered not only for his work, but his support for Palestine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...085553648.html

[Wolverine]

Write it out.

Handicap?

[PostmodernProphet]

?? We did.

so we agree Newton didn't create the law of gravity.....

[sear]

PP #684

Newton didn't secure a patent on gravity. The apocryphal story is about the apple that fell on Newton's head.

The factual scientific contributions Newton made are far more impressive.

[Micawber]

Still wouldn't be a proof of a god. It is just proof of someone has frogs raining nearby and can make use of seas that happen to have parted. BTW, Moses was not a god.


POst hoc propter hoc fallacy

cpgito ergo sum

Welcome to your new paradox. Are you trying to disprove God or not? Which is it?
res ipsa
Inversion fallacy.

non curat lex

[Micawber]

Hitler was NOT a socialist.

The war movement of Germany was borne by capitalism.

You do not know what you are talking about.

And you support Donald Trump who is acting more like Adolf Hitler with each passing day.

Trumptards like to conflate the appropriation by a despot of resources to consolidate power with marxism, which is ostensibly doing something similar
but for a far different purpose, to transfer the means of production out of the hands of the ruling class to the people. They don't actually believe it, they just enjoy trolling
fake history to try and take away from the obvious similarities between other infamous despotic rulers use of propaganda, oppression of outgroups, nationalism, fear and their god, Trump.

The similarities between Hitlers political philosophy and Trump is obvious. Trump treats "good white christian people" as a master race.

[Micawber]

If you understood the proof I've already posted you wouldn't be telling me that. For if you understood the proof I've already posted, you'd then understand I've already told you that.

We stand corrected, for we stand corrected, then we stand corrected. Drink much?

[sear]

M #688
You buyin'?

M,

I could try to 'splain it again.
But perhaps even more constructive for you in your case, an insight from a wise man:

"Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to ones self-esteem." "Pride and vanity can thus be greater obstacle to learning than stupidity." psychiatrist Thomas Szasz MD

[Micawber]

M #688
You buyin'?

M,

I could try to 'splain it again.
But perhaps even more constructive for you in your case, an insight from a wise man:

"Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to ones self-esteem." "Pride and vanity can thus be greater obstacle to learning than stupidity." psychiatrist Thomas Szasz MD

You were drunk. Now you are sober? Reread your sentences. LMAO It's OK, everyone should knock one back now and again.