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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    'Non-belief' is itself a belief.
    So-called "non-belief"...IS ITSELF A "BELIEF."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Fuck yourself eman. Leave immediately before you ruin yet another forum.
    He is correct on that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    So dumb. Thinking hooey and bullshit is on the same footing as reason and science. So sad.
    Anyone supposing that someone asserting "there are no gods"...is using reason and science to arrive there...does not understand reason or science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    A place away from the lights. I call that home. I live in the middle of nowhere and often take out my telescope to view the skies, though my favorites are Jupiter and Mars... A good telescope can give you an incredible view of Jupiter.
    I have three scopes...two refractors and one reflector. The reflector is the most powerful.

    For me...Saturn is the most beautiful planet...although I never tire of looking at the moon.

    I use binoculars rather than a telescope to look at the Andromeda galaxy. Just seems to be easier to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Mars just skittered out of sight to the west.
    It's leaving opposition (?) from it's closest approach (opposition and perihelion) in July 2018
    when it was a fat red bastard hanging over the sky most of the night.


    How wonderful to live under a dark sky away from the lights. I got city lights, but I got a dark place
    where the roof next door block the streetlight. I'm gonna go look at Orion and then shut it down. Keep looking up
    The Orion nebula is a great sight.

    I've never been able to see the ring nebula in Lyra...never. Tried dozens of times. Have you ever gotten that?

    I live in New Jersey...lots of light pollution here so that may be the problem for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    That's not a "revelation" it is an opinion. While he and I generally agree on this one, it really isn't a revelation and it wasn't "from the afterlife". Unless this is going to be me "from the afterlife" once I die too...
    LOL

    Hawking jumped the shark years ago with his AI warnings. He has no way of knowing what the answer is anyway. The best any of us can say is we don't know. To believe a universe always existed before time began at the moment of the big bang requires assumptions not unlike a belief in god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, it is based on faith. It can be based on nothing else.

    The Theory of the Big Bang is not a theory of science. It is a nonscientific theory, and a religion. Science has no theories about past unobserved events. They are not falsifiable. A religion is an initial circular argument with arguments extending from it.
    There’s good evidence for the BB.

    Nonsense about faith being detached from reason and logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    There’s good evidence for the BB.
    Yeah...there is decent evidence for the Big Bang...although it is possible that one day science will discard it completely. It happens!

    Under any circumstances...the Big Bang says nothing about whether or not gods exist.


    Nonsense about faith being detached from reason and logic.
    Anyone who sees a blind guess as coming from reason and logic...simply does not understand reason or logic.

    Neither play a significant role in a blind guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    To me, it's too much of an escape clause. The whole "god just always was - we don't need a cause" thing. That MAY be, but there has to be some sort of logic to it. We can't demand explanation for the universe, and then immediately abandon it when it comes to god.
    There’s excellent logic in support of an intelligent agent behind the fine-tuning of the physical constants throughout the universe; arguably moreso in biology, where the sheer amount of integrated complexity practically shouts design.

    In fact, it’s takes a considerable amount of faith in materialistic processes to believe that biological life just happened to occur.

    That takes more faith than I can muster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    LOL

    Hawking jumped the shark years ago with his AI warnings. He has no way of knowing what the answer is anyway. The best any of us can say is we don't know. To believe a universe always existed before time began at the moment of the big bang requires assumptions not unlike a belief in god.
    Bingo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Yeah...there is decent evidence for the Big Bang...although it is possible that one day science will discard it completely. It happens!

    Under any circumstances...the Big Bang says nothing about whether or not gods exist.



    Anyone who sees a blind guess as coming from reason and logic...simply does not understand reason or logic.

    Neither play a significant role in a blind guess.
    I have no use for blind faith, Frankie lol.

    And of course, science provides provisional knowledge. But you have to work with what you have; and presently, I see no reason to not accept the BB theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I have no use for blind faith, Frankie lol.

    And of course, science provides provisional knowledge. But you have to work with what you have; and presently, I see no reason to not accept the BB theory.
    I see no reason to accept the BB theory. How could it have created life as we know it?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I see no reason to accept the BB theory. How could it have created life as we know it?
    The BB is a theory that attempts to account for cosmological origins and doesn’t say anything about the origin of life.

    Actually, the BB assumes a singularly that inexplicably popped into existence and then expanded into what we know as the present universe. The cosmological red shift is good evidence that the universe is expanding. I see no good reason to reject it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I have no use for blind faith, Frankie lol.

    And of course, science provides provisional knowledge. But you have to work with what you have; and presently, I see no reason to not accept the BB theory.
    Neither do I, Darth, and future science may show that it remains the best explanation for what brought THIS part of the universe into being.

    But even scientists and theoretical physicists like Hawking acknowledge that they do not know what, if anything, preceded the Big Bang. And they do not know if there is more to the "physical" universe...than what was brought into existence by the Big Bang.

    There may be a LOT more to REALITY than we humans can even imagine right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I have no use for blind faith, Frankie lol.
    Your previous posts indicate that you do, though.

    You seem to be comfortable making the blind guess that at least one god is needed to explain..."what is."

    If I am wrong on that...tell me I am...and I will acknowledge being wrong and apologize.

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