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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Bigotry. You are making a compositional error involving people as the class. Religion exists on all sides of the political spectrum. No one has 'the most'.
    Although the Left refer to conservatives as “the Religious Right,” the Left is far more religious, both in the United States and the world. With their comrades in arms, Fake News, the Democrats have created a myth on this subject over the decades, and it is another example of their hypocrisy.

    Of the world’s 4.5 billion Asians most are religious, and the majority is left winged. Of Africa’s 1.3 billion blacks, most are religious, and again, the vast majority is left winged. South America has half a billion people. Nearly all are religious, and once more, most are left winged. There is a population of 220 million in the Middle East. The majority is God-fearing and left winged. This applies to Mexico’s population of 123 million. Altogether it adds up to 6.643 billion, which is nearly the whole population of Earth, and again, most are left winged.

    Yet Lefties love saying conservatives are religious! “The religious right!” they howl, like jumpy wolves under a full moon. When you point out that most of the world’s Lefties are deeply religious they run away like burn victims from a fire. Try it out. Watch them flee. If you can get any to stay still and address the subject, most shrug and say that Arabs or Asians are not left winged, or whine about them being religiously conservative.

    In other words, they confuse the noun ‘conservative’ with the adjective ‘conservative.’ The noun refers to politics while the adjective can apply to religion and politics. When you call a Republican ‘conservative’, it’s a noun, not an adjective.



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    The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Argument of ignorance fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
    You're waving placards. When describing someone's argument as a logical fallacy you need to explain why it is that fallacy. Just naming a fallacy is waving a placard. It's not a debate; it's name calling, which makes it ad Hominem. Notice I explained why it was ad Hominem.
    The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, it is based on faith. It can be based on nothing else.

    The Theory of the Big Bang is not a theory of science. It is a nonscientific theory, and a religion. Science has no theories about past unobserved events. They are not falsifiable. A religion is an initial circular argument with arguments extending from it.
    Faith is stupidity. Anyone who says otherwise is irrational. The big bang is a scientific theory, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. It is supported by observation and known scientific laws
    and consistency those laws have with observed effects on matter and electromagnetic radiation. Gravity, wave propagation, cosmic background radiation and expansion all observed.

    These are all observed phenomenon that your Jebus never even thought to ask about. He was too busy doing a conjob on bedouins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    'Non-belief' is itself a belief.
    Fuck yourself eman. Leave immediately before you ruin yet another forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is supporting evidence for the existence of God.
    Another placard. When saying, "There is evidence!" the idea is that you provide said evidence. Put your placard down and provide it, Brainiac.
    The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.

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    [QUOTE=Into the Night;2667209]Then by your view, man is still primitive. Most people believe in some sort of god or gods.

    Science doesn't address it at all. It does not prove any god or gods do not exist. Science is agnostic. Have you any idea how many scientists are religious?

    No, MAN uses religion to wage his wars. He takes the name of God in vain by doing so.

    Argument of ignorance. You cannot know they are not real.
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    Neither is god.

    None needed.

    He already has, quite a few times.

    No, it wouldn't. That is evident.

    You haven't been paying attention then!
    Most scientists are not religious. Google that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Theory of the Big Bang is not a theory of science. It is a nonscientific theory, and a religion.
    Wrong. It is indeed a scientific theory.

    Big Bang Theory

    In astronomy, a theory according to which the universe began billions of years ago in a single event, similar to an explosion. There is evidence for the Big Bang theory in the observed red shift of distant galaxies, which indicates that they are moving away from the Earth, in the existence of cosmic microwave background, and from other data. The Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe is accepted by most astronomers today.

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    Theory

    2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

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    The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.

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    "In other words, they confuse the noun ‘conservative’ with the adjective ‘conservative.’ The noun refers to politics while the adjective can apply to religion and politics. When you call a Republican ‘conservative’, it’s a noun, not an adjective." RL #391

    Please post the dictionary definition which makes those distinctions.
    conservative (ken-sűr´ve-tîv) adjective
    1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
    2. Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
    3. Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
    4. a. Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism. b. Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
    5. Conservative. Of or belonging to the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
    6. Conservative. Of or adhering to Conservative Judaism.
    7. Tending to conserve; preservative: the conservative use of natural resources.

    noun
    1. One favoring traditional views and values.
    2. A supporter of political conservatism.
    3. ConservativeAbbr. C. A member or supporter of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
    4. Archaic. A preservative agent or principle.
    - conser´vatively adverb
    - conser´vativeness noun

    Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.
    Yours is at best an oversimplification.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    In fact all my neuroscientist friends some of whom are national academy of science members think being religious is disqualifying.
    They know brains, and think you people are stupid. Most scientists are irreligious. Because it's dumb to believe in ghosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I believe in god - but I don't think you can just get away w/ that last part. Why not?

    Can't we say that the universe required no cause?
    not logically.....if there is no cause there is no reason for a big bang to have happened and we would still be unbanged......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    To me, it's too much of an escape clause.
    you know, one of the reasons it seems like its an escape clause might be that its true.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    We can't demand explanation for the universe, and then immediately abandon it when it comes to god.
    sure you can......can I explain to you how butter came to be made from milk without discussing rocks?.......the universe is not God and butter is not a rock......

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    M #399

    "No discipline has all the answers." Physicist & Theologian Ian Barbour PhD & recipient of the Templeton Prize for Religion; on science & religion
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
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    "No discipline has all the answers." Physicist & Theologian Ian Barbour PhD & recipient of the Templeton Prize for Religion; on science & religion
    actually that is an invalid assumption.....for all you know there may be several that have all the answers........("people who hate absolutes need to learn not to talk in absolutes"Myself, JPP, around 10:06 pm)

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    So dumb. Thinking hooey and bullshit is on the same footing as reason and science. So sad.

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