Reply With QuoteStop it Frank. You've been given the answer from the beginning. Claims require proof and you can't prove a negative. I know you don't like that but tough shit.Originally Posted by Frank Apisa
Thunderstruck
It would be pretty easy. I’d ask for my bank password. If He provided that, I would ask what shape and color I was thinking of, what seven digit number I was thinking of and what event I was remembering. Finally I’d ask which house we were living in when I was born, somewhere in this picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.7053...!3m1!1e3?hl=en
The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.
Loves Me Some Souls
Stop it Frank. You've been given the answer from the beginning. Claims require proof and you can't prove a negative. I know you don't like that but tough shit.
Thunderstruck
Actually, science doesn't say there is no god. Scientists say there is no evidence of a god.
The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.
Frank Apisa (10-18-2018)
fully immersed in faith..
I wish you wouldn't quote him when you argue with him.....I have him on ignore so I don't have to look at his stupid shit, then you go and repaste it.......
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Stop claiming that you cannot prove a negative.
Of course you can.
If someone asserts that there is a live, African elephant in your top desk drawer...
...and you assert that there is no elephant of any kind in your top desk drawer...
...do you honestly suppose YOU CANNOT PROVE THAT NEGATIVE?
Jesus H. Christ.
Wake up.
YOU are the one who seems not to like it.I know you don't like that but tough shit.
I love it.
I mention it often.
You are opposing me right now because I mentioned it.
I am saying that the assertions "there is a GOD" and "there are no gods"...are both blind guesses.
Both, when asserted, assume a burden of proof.
Neither can meet it.
Wake the fuck up.
serene
I wish rain-water was beer."I wish you wouldn't quote him" PP #289
OK
Now it's your turn again.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
Thunderstruck
As I say, kitsch. Combining Jesus with socialism is like getting Groucho Marx to have a sex change and be a Charles Manson groupie.
The first witchdoctor 100,000 years ago said, "God did it," and today the Pope says the same thing.
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JPP Contributor
Yup.
And science (scientists, actually) also say there is no evidence of any sentient beings on any of the planets circling the 15 stars nearest to Sol.
The best thing that can be said about whether or not there are any sentient beings on any of those planets is...
...I DO NOT KNOW.
Anyone asserting there are sentient beings on them...or anyone asserting there are no sentient beings on them...is simply making blind guesses.
Same thing goes with "there are gods" and "there are no gods."
serene
PS
- piffle -"I am saying that the assertions "there is a GOD" and "there are no gods"...are both blind guesses." FA #290
If Juliette posted that fire-breathing dragons were flying about her kitchen stealing her silverware, and farting malodorously, would you consider the validity of her claim to be a blind guess either way?
What proof is there of any supernatural anything?
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
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JPP Contributor
Sear...the assertion "there are no gods"...CAN ONLY BE A BLIND GUESS.
If you cannot see that...my sympathies.
If "nature" is defined as everything that exists...What proof is there of any supernatural anything?
...then EVERYTHING that exists is a part of nature.
If ghosts exist...they are a part of nature.
If vampires exist...they are a part of nature.
If gods exist...they are a part of nature.
We humans sometimes kid ourselves into thinking we know everything...that everything that exists has already been discovered.
That is what we are doing when we do that...KIDDING OURSELVES.
In any case, if gods exist...they are a part of nature.
fully immersed in faith..
fuck off, and learn what a quote button is for......
Verified User
No shit, those LOSERS think "all" versus "nothing" is somehow a tie. Only on fantasy island. Just remember that's where they live.
So who cares really. After its been stated that intelligent people ain't buying stupid and never will, let them preach to their choir of retards.
The amusing thing to me is to see god in retreat as science advances over time. God was once a badass riding a heavenly horse blowing his godly trumpet.
Then he had to be a normal man humble and peaceful and normal because god wanted him that way. Then he becomes some nondescript supernatural ether.
Now he has to hide and cower in the doubt left in subatomic particles and cosmic fuzziness. There's nowhere for it to hide. The gaps are narrow.
He probably beds down somewhere in climate denial city next to evolution deprived alley smoking a non cancer tobacco. Denial denial.
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JPP Contributor
Wow...the words "I don't know" really are something you cannot utter, Micawber.
Get over that.
Get real.
YOU do not know if gods exist or not.
The people who assert "THEY DO EXIST" are just blindly guessing...and are idiots for insisting on the assertion.
The people who assert "THERE ARE NO GODS" are also blindly guessing...and are idiots for insisting on the assertion.
Verified User
Again, false. When every molecule ever examined contains zero supernatural juju and nonsecular belief is loaded with syupernatural juju,
my belief in no god is vastly more supported than belief in God. Equating the two is the dishonest ranting of a delusional.
If those ruby slippers fit, feel free to tap them thrice.
serene
M #297
Psychologist Joy Browne spends a lot of time correcting mis-perceptions.
But she confessed to making an exception. Dr. Browne preferred to avoid bursting delusions in her patients, when those delusions (however false) served a constructive role.
Humans tend to believe what they want to believe.
And religious believers tend to cling to their delusions most tenaciously. It's their ideological security blanket. There's even evolutionary & psychological explanation for the prominence of religious myth.
- As new-borns we rely on the suckling breast. Mother tends to our every need.
- As we mature, both mother and father play their parental roles, teaching manners, etiquette, survival, etc.
- SO !!
Young adults have had these parental influences all their lives. But once the offspring are full adults, and on their own, this absence of the parental overseer is gone.
As the explanation goes, persons with such new-found "need" turn to an overseer of an even higher authority. Some even call him "heavenly father".
But it may all trace back to our mammalian roots. For of what use are lactating mammaries without the compelling instinct to suckle?
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful." sometimes attributed to Seneca the Younger (c.3 BCE - CE 65)
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
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