‘There is NO GOD’ Stephen Hawking’s final revelation of the afterlife REVEALED

[PostmodernProphet]

Apparently, the world's four billion Hindus, Daoists, Jews, Buddhists, and Agnostics are all going to burn in hell.

/shrugs......if that is what they choose, what else would you expect?.......

[PostmodernProphet]

About sums it up



Albert Einstein: God is a Product of Human Weakness

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954.

This seems to be a clear statement that Einstein had no belief in the Judeo-Christian God and took a skeptical view of the religious texts that these "faiths of the book" regard as divinely inspired or the word of God.

sad but true.......do you think that excuses your own bad choices?......

[Frank Apisa]

I've asked you before but never got a logical answer. Again, why do you care what others believe? What effect does it have on your life?

I answered you with a logical answer before...and I will repeat it now.

I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHERS "BELIEVE" ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OR NON-EXISTENCE OF GODS.

Blind guesses mean nothing to me.

I am merely pointing out that a "belief" on this question is nothing more than a blind guess.

Not sure why you are having so much trouble with this, RB...and why it triggers you so.

This is a discussion forum...and the subject is being discussed as part of this thread. If it bothers you as much as it seems...perhaps you ought to go to a different thread.

[PostmodernProphet]

I have trouble understanding why atheists need to whine about going somewhere they refuse to even believe in at the command of someone they refuse to believe exists......it can't just be because you hate the thought that someone believes you are incredibly stupid........you all should be used to that by now.......

[Frank Apisa]

Really? does that look like that is a post enjoying the fact that Hawking is in Hell. Don't believe fine just do it more quietly. I amazes me the amount of time spent by people on something they do not believe exists. The fact is you do know God exists, and would rather live in sin.

BULLSHIT!

Nobody here KNOWS any gods exist...and nobody here KNOWS there are no gods.

Anyone offering a "belief" in either direction...is just sharing a blind guess.

[Frank Apisa]

Who giggled? It does not please us that he is in Hell. We simply stand for what we believe in, just like you do! I have proof of God, he changed my life.

You get another BULLSHIT.

You do not have proof of any gods.

[Frank Apisa]

Blind Guess? look around you if you do nothing else! Look in the mirror! You ask for respect for your non belief, and disparage those who do believe, incredible. Don't believe more quietly.

Fuck you.

I will comment as loudly and as often as I want.

If you do not want to read what I write...don't.

[Frank Apisa]

And insodoing, wonder into the realm of philosophers lol.

Hawking gave a clue in the OP: the ‘simplest’ explanation is there is no God. He fell back on Occam’s Razor. That’s a philosophical tool. Granted, he could appeal to the multiverse hypothesis [and get way over our heads with the math and physics behind it] to get around the implications of a universe with a beginning—but he’s still in the same boat as the rest of when it comes back to the fundamental question of God.

Yup.

He made a blind guess...just like so many do in one direction or the other.

[Frank Apisa]

It's really not blind faith on his part. You can't prove something doesn't exist but you can say that after a lifetime of searching you have not seen any evidence. Blind faith is believing in God without any evidence to support that belief.

"Believing" there are NO GODS...is every much a blind guess as "believing" at least one god exists.

[Frank Apisa]

If Hawking posited a multiverse to escape the implications of a finite universe, that necessitates a beginning and perhaps a beginner—he is forced to believe in another entity that exists beyond the observable universe.

The irony speaks for itself.

No one is ever FORCED to make a blind guess.

One can simply say, "Existence is a very mysterious thing...and there is no unambiguous evidence that oints to "there is a god involved" OR "there are no gods involved"...

...and since any guess I make is essentially a blind guess...

...I choose not to make the guess.

[Frank Apisa]

There is no irony here. Someone who says they don't believe in God due to a lack of evidence is not in the same philosophical boat as someone who says they do believe in God even with no evidence.

Actually, Guille, they may both be in the same philosophical boat.

Your wording leaves things open on that question.

You said, "Someone who says they don't believe in God..."

That is not the same as, "Someone who believe there are no gods."

I do not believe any gods exist...

...IS NOT THE SAME AS...

...I believe no gods exist.

[Frank Apisa]

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I'll say, and all he had to do was believe, that's all God asks

There may be no gods...or gods may exist and not give a shit about whether humans "believe" or not...

...so that is not what any god asks.

That is what you are saying a god asks.

[evince]

"Believing" there are NO GODS...is every much a blind guess as "believing" at least one god exists.

when I look at the evidence I don't see how any gods or monsters exist.


If there is a god they would have to be really evil to punish people who have been decent to others for selfish reasons like "they didn't believe I exist"


how Trumpian of a god to be sooo self concerned


all the religions speak of how wonderful God or Gods are


why would they do such an evil thing



Now if monsters exist then I would expect them to act evil like that


so if a god is evil then its not a god


Its a monster



so if you tell me your GOD will do evil things then your god is a monster '


NOT A GOD

[Frank Apisa]

Well, there you have it folks.

The true colors of so-called Christians being exposed to the light of day.

Apparently, the world's four billion Hindus, Daoists, Jews, Buddhists, and Agnostics are all going to burn in hell.

Also destined to burn in hellish flames for eternity: children and babies who either don't know any better, or have been taught a non-Christian faith.

In another century, fundamentalist Christians would have considered Steven Hawking's disability to be a sign of punishment from God, and might have even burned him at the stake.


Is there any group of people on the planet that enjoys and revels in sado-masochism , punishment, and retribution more than evangelical Christians?
I really think not.

It is unfathomable that there are people who posit a god that petty...

...and then pretend they love and worship that god.

Any god as petty as that kind of god is not even likeable let alone worthy of love...and rather than worship such a god, one should cringe at the thought of it.

[Frank Apisa]

But there is evidence lol.

Design is apparent throughout all of nature. In fact, all forms of evolution are an attempt to account for *apparent* design either in biology or cosmology. The best evidence indicates the universe is finite and had a beginning. Anything that begins to exist necessitates a beginning.

Theists posit an eternal God that exists outside of space and time as the beginner. Hawking appeals to an infinite multiverse that gave birth to this one.

The former group has tidier logic. The logic is pretty compelling, in fact.

There is nothing remotely logical about that "logic."

Fact is, there is no way to come to...

There is at least one god

There are no gods

It is more likely that there is at least one god than that there are none

It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one

...using logic, reason, math, or science.

All one can do is to make a blind guess in those directions.