Kim Jung Un ready to announce his conversion to Christianity and ask for Forgiveness

[Bigdog]

? Could be.


"Kim Jong Un Invites Pope Francis to North Korea
No pope has ever visited the country, which has a record of repressing religion

Updated Oct. 9, 2018 1:20 p.m. ET
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has invited Pope Francis to Pyongyang, South Korea’s presidential office said Tuesday, in a new diplomatic outreach by the repressive regime as it negotiates a nuclear-disarmament deal with Washington.

A papal visit to Pyongyang could risk criticism of the Vatican, which recently signed a controversial agreement with China on the appointment of bishops in the world’s most populous country. North Korea has among the world’s worst human-rights records and operates a network of political prison camps where survivors have said they were subjected to torture, forced labor and starvation.

The Vatican doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Pyongyang, which has a history of suppressing religion, but the two sides have had informal contacts over the years. Pope Francis visited South Korea in 2014, while John Paul II traveled there in 1984 and 1989. No pope has visited North Korea.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in plans to deliver Mr. Kim’s invitation when he meets the pope during a European tour next week, a presidential spokesman told a news briefing in Seoul. Mr. Kim had asked Mr. Moon to convey the invitation during their summit last month in Pyongyang, Seoul officials added.

“Chairman Kim Jong Un has asked the president to tell the pope that if Pope Francis visits Pyongyang, Mr. Kim would ‘greatly welcome’ him,” said Kim Eui-kyeom, a spokesman for Mr. Moon.

The Vatican didn’t comment directly on Pyongyang’s invitation on Tuesday but said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican secretary of state, would celebrate a “Mass for peace” for the Korean Peninsula on Oct. 17 at St. Peter’s Basilica, which Mr. Moon would attend. There was no immediate comment on the matter in North Korea’s state media.

It is unclear whether the Vatican might play a mediating role in an effort to normalize relations between the two Koreas. Pope Francis helped broker a deal in December 2014 to normalize ties between the U.S. and Cuba, writing letters to President Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro urging them to settle outstanding issues.

During a five-day visit to the South four years ago, Pope Francis led prayers for peace and reconciliation between the two Koreas. But on the day he arrived in Seoul, North Korea launched a series of short-range rockets.

Pyongyang’s outreach to the Vatican comes as it is engaged in tough negotiations with the U.S. over its nuclear program and ahead of a possible second summit with President Trump aimed at implementing their June accord.

North Korea is seeking diplomatic support in its quest to have international sanctions eased and is pressing the U.S. to move faster on a symbolic declaration on ending hostile relations. Mr. Moon, the South Korean leader, has served as an unofficial intermediary between Washington and Pyongyang throughout the process.

Mr. Kim is planning a trip to Moscow, Russian officials confirmed Monday. He is expected to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping again soon and may meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to South Korea’s presidential office.

Although it is unclear when Catholicism first came to Korea, the religion made meaningful inroads into Korea in the 18th century. There are accounts of Catholic baptisms and furtive gatherings among Catholic Koreans in the 1780s. But all forms of Christianity were persecuted until the late 19th century.

The northern half of the peninsula had been home to thousands of Christians, including Catholics, before Mr. Kim’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung, came to power as North Korean state founder. Pyongyang had once been known as the “Jerusalem of the East” for its preponderance of Christians, and Kim Il Sung built three showcase churches in the city, but critics say that was to hide his country’s religious intolerance.

Since the end of the Korean War in 1953, North Korea has banned Catholic priests from residing there. The Vatican doesn’t keep statistics for Catholics there.

In South Korea, Catholic priests provided humanitarian and spiritual support for antigovernment protesters in the 1970s and ’80s when juntas ruled the country.

While North Korea accepts Christian aid, it regards Christianity as a threat, according to a memoir by Thae Yong Ho, a former senior North Korean diplomat who defected in 2016.

The regime has imprisoned Christians for praying and owning a Bible. Preaching is forbidden, yet some aid workers say they talk about their beliefs in private with individuals who ask, despite the risk.

Billy Graham, the American Christian evangelist who died this year, traveled to Pyongyang in 1992, where he met then-leader Kim Il Sung.

Ahn Chan-il, president of the World Institute for North Korea Studies, a private think tank in Seoul, said the outreach to the Vatican showed that Mr. Kim was growing in diplomatic confidence after his attendance at a series of summits.

By inviting the pope, he said, “North Korea is seeking to divert global attention away from its nukes while attaining an image as a normal state and a peace pursuer.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kim-jon...cis-1539073822

[Bigdog]

Since the end of the Korean War in 1953, North Korea has banned Catholic priests

Kim's welcoming of the pope is an extremely significant policy shift for an atheist socialist nation.

[signalmankenneth]

[Bigdog]

Signalman's new virtue signal

[mak2]

Kim's welcoming of the pope is an extremely significant policy shift for an atheist socialist nation.

How so? Do you think he is going to suddenly start allowing Christianity in his country, thanks to Trump? Or do you think he is just trying to create the illusion his kingdom is becoming more acceptable?

[Bigdog]

How so? Do you think he is going to suddenly start allowing Christianity in his country, thanks to Trump? Or do you think he is just trying to create the illusion his kingdom is becoming more acceptable?

Replacing God with worship of Gov't leaders is what Socialists seek to do. Remember, Obama was labeled the messiah by the Left.

I wonder if Kim will kiss the Pope's ring.

[Mott the Hoople]

Replacing God with worship of Gov't leaders is what Socialists seek to do. Remember, Obama was labeled the messiah by the Left.

I wonder if Kim will kiss the Pope's ring.

You know they sell Ocean front property in Nebraska to people like you.

[mak2]

Replacing God with worship of Gov't leaders is what Socialists seek to do. Remember, Obama was labeled the messiah by the Left.

I wonder if Kim will kiss the Pope's ring.

um, so, about NK and the Pope, what do you think? Tip: Saying anything about Obama or Clinton is stupid.

[mak2]

You know they sell Ocean front property in Nebraska to people like you.

I used to hang out on a stupid RW site that would just spew this stuff and think they outsmarted everyone. I dont know why, just reminded me of BD.

[Guno צְבִי]

? Could be.


"Kim Jong Un Invites Pope Francis to North Korea
No pope has ever visited the country, which has a record of repressing religion

Updated Oct. 9, 2018 1:20 p.m. ET
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has invited Pope Francis to Pyongyang, South Korea’s presidential office said Tuesday, in a new diplomatic outreach by the repressive regime as it negotiates a nuclear-disarmament deal with Washington.

A papal visit to Pyongyang could risk criticism of the Vatican, which recently signed a controversial agreement with China on the appointment of bishops in the world’s most populous country. North Korea has among the world’s worst human-rights records and operates a network of political prison camps where survivors have said they were subjected to torture, forced labor and starvation.

The Vatican doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Pyongyang, which has a history of suppressing religion, but the two sides have had informal contacts over the years. Pope Francis visited South Korea in 2014, while John Paul II traveled there in 1984 and 1989. No pope has visited North Korea.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in plans to deliver Mr. Kim’s invitation when he meets the pope during a European tour next week, a presidential spokesman told a news briefing in Seoul. Mr. Kim had asked Mr. Moon to convey the invitation during their summit last month in Pyongyang, Seoul officials added.

“Chairman Kim Jong Un has asked the president to tell the pope that if Pope Francis visits Pyongyang, Mr. Kim would ‘greatly welcome’ him,” said Kim Eui-kyeom, a spokesman for Mr. Moon.

The Vatican didn’t comment directly on Pyongyang’s invitation on Tuesday but said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican secretary of state, would celebrate a “Mass for peace” for the Korean Peninsula on Oct. 17 at St. Peter’s Basilica, which Mr. Moon would attend. There was no immediate comment on the matter in North Korea’s state media.

It is unclear whether the Vatican might play a mediating role in an effort to normalize relations between the two Koreas. Pope Francis helped broker a deal in December 2014 to normalize ties between the U.S. and Cuba, writing letters to President Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro urging them to settle outstanding issues.

During a five-day visit to the South four years ago, Pope Francis led prayers for peace and reconciliation between the two Koreas. But on the day he arrived in Seoul, North Korea launched a series of short-range rockets.

Pyongyang’s outreach to the Vatican comes as it is engaged in tough negotiations with the U.S. over its nuclear program and ahead of a possible second summit with President Trump aimed at implementing their June accord.

North Korea is seeking diplomatic support in its quest to have international sanctions eased and is pressing the U.S. to move faster on a symbolic declaration on ending hostile relations. Mr. Moon, the South Korean leader, has served as an unofficial intermediary between Washington and Pyongyang throughout the process.

Mr. Kim is planning a trip to Moscow, Russian officials confirmed Monday. He is expected to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping again soon and may meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to South Korea’s presidential office.

Although it is unclear when Catholicism first came to Korea, the religion made meaningful inroads into Korea in the 18th century. There are accounts of Catholic baptisms and furtive gatherings among Catholic Koreans in the 1780s. But all forms of Christianity were persecuted until the late 19th century.

The northern half of the peninsula had been home to thousands of Christians, including Catholics, before Mr. Kim’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung, came to power as North Korean state founder. Pyongyang had once been known as the “Jerusalem of the East” for its preponderance of Christians, and Kim Il Sung built three showcase churches in the city, but critics say that was to hide his country’s religious intolerance.

Since the end of the Korean War in 1953, North Korea has banned Catholic priests from residing there. The Vatican doesn’t keep statistics for Catholics there.

In South Korea, Catholic priests provided humanitarian and spiritual support for antigovernment protesters in the 1970s and ’80s when juntas ruled the country.

While North Korea accepts Christian aid, it regards Christianity as a threat, according to a memoir by Thae Yong Ho, a former senior North Korean diplomat who defected in 2016.

The regime has imprisoned Christians for praying and owning a Bible. Preaching is forbidden, yet some aid workers say they talk about their beliefs in private with individuals who ask, despite the risk.

Billy Graham, the American Christian evangelist who died this year, traveled to Pyongyang in 1992, where he met then-leader Kim Il Sung.

Ahn Chan-il, president of the World Institute for North Korea Studies, a private think tank in Seoul, said the outreach to the Vatican showed that Mr. Kim was growing in diplomatic confidence after his attendance at a series of summits.

By inviting the pope, he said, “North Korea is seeking to divert global attention away from its nukes while attaining an image as a normal state and a peace pursuer.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kim-jon...cis-1539073822

Have another drink, why would he debase himself with that moronic crap, he would be gone in 10 minutes by his generals and china would shut that asshattery off fast , they themselves are putting their religious nuts in reeducation camps

[Guno צְבִי]

? Could be.


"Kim Jong Un Invites Pope Francis to North Korea
No pope has ever visited the country, which has a record of repressing religion

Updated Oct. 9, 2018 1:20 p.m. ET
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has invited Pope Francis to Pyongyang, South Korea’s presidential office said Tuesday, in a new diplomatic outreach by the repressive regime as it negotiates a nuclear-disarmament deal with Washington.

A papal visit to Pyongyang could risk criticism of the Vatican, which recently signed a controversial agreement with China on the appointment of bishops in the world’s most populous country. North Korea has among the world’s worst human-rights records and operates a network of political prison camps where survivors have said they were subjected to torture, forced labor and starvation.

The Vatican doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Pyongyang, which has a history of suppressing religion, but the two sides have had informal contacts over the years. Pope Francis visited South Korea in 2014, while John Paul II traveled there in 1984 and 1989. No pope has visited North Korea.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in plans to deliver Mr. Kim’s invitation when he meets the pope during a European tour next week, a presidential spokesman told a news briefing in Seoul. Mr. Kim had asked Mr. Moon to convey the invitation during their summit last month in Pyongyang, Seoul officials added.

“Chairman Kim Jong Un has asked the president to tell the pope that if Pope Francis visits Pyongyang, Mr. Kim would ‘greatly welcome’ him,” said Kim Eui-kyeom, a spokesman for Mr. Moon.

The Vatican didn’t comment directly on Pyongyang’s invitation on Tuesday but said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican secretary of state, would celebrate a “Mass for peace” for the Korean Peninsula on Oct. 17 at St. Peter’s Basilica, which Mr. Moon would attend. There was no immediate comment on the matter in North Korea’s state media.

It is unclear whether the Vatican might play a mediating role in an effort to normalize relations between the two Koreas. Pope Francis helped broker a deal in December 2014 to normalize ties between the U.S. and Cuba, writing letters to President Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro urging them to settle outstanding issues.

During a five-day visit to the South four years ago, Pope Francis led prayers for peace and reconciliation between the two Koreas. But on the day he arrived in Seoul, North Korea launched a series of short-range rockets.

Pyongyang’s outreach to the Vatican comes as it is engaged in tough negotiations with the U.S. over its nuclear program and ahead of a possible second summit with President Trump aimed at implementing their June accord.

North Korea is seeking diplomatic support in its quest to have international sanctions eased and is pressing the U.S. to move faster on a symbolic declaration on ending hostile relations. Mr. Moon, the South Korean leader, has served as an unofficial intermediary between Washington and Pyongyang throughout the process.

Mr. Kim is planning a trip to Moscow, Russian officials confirmed Monday. He is expected to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping again soon and may meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to South Korea’s presidential office.

Although it is unclear when Catholicism first came to Korea, the religion made meaningful inroads into Korea in the 18th century. There are accounts of Catholic baptisms and furtive gatherings among Catholic Koreans in the 1780s. But all forms of Christianity were persecuted until the late 19th century.

The northern half of the peninsula had been home to thousands of Christians, including Catholics, before Mr. Kim’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung, came to power as North Korean state founder. Pyongyang had once been known as the “Jerusalem of the East” for its preponderance of Christians, and Kim Il Sung built three showcase churches in the city, but critics say that was to hide his country’s religious intolerance.

Since the end of the Korean War in 1953, North Korea has banned Catholic priests from residing there. The Vatican doesn’t keep statistics for Catholics there.

In South Korea, Catholic priests provided humanitarian and spiritual support for antigovernment protesters in the 1970s and ’80s when juntas ruled the country.

While North Korea accepts Christian aid, it regards Christianity as a threat, according to a memoir by Thae Yong Ho, a former senior North Korean diplomat who defected in 2016.

The regime has imprisoned Christians for praying and owning a Bible. Preaching is forbidden, yet some aid workers say they talk about their beliefs in private with individuals who ask, despite the risk.

Billy Graham, the American Christian evangelist who died this year, traveled to Pyongyang in 1992, where he met then-leader Kim Il Sung.

Ahn Chan-il, president of the World Institute for North Korea Studies, a private think tank in Seoul, said the outreach to the Vatican showed that Mr. Kim was growing in diplomatic confidence after his attendance at a series of summits.

By inviting the pope, he said, “North Korea is seeking to divert global attention away from its nukes while attaining an image as a normal state and a peace pursuer.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kim-jon...cis-1539073822

[Bigdog]

How so? Do you think he is going to suddenly start allowing Christianity in his country, thanks to Trump? Or do you think he is just trying to create the illusion his kingdom is becoming more acceptable?

What impact would a "Pope Parade" have on the North Korean people or his appearance on NK Socialist State TV?

Whatever Kim's reason, it represents a yuge policy reversal.

[Jade Dragon]

Your title is a crock of shit, Bigdingus. Of course, they normally are just an ad libbing of random right wing propaganda phrases. So this may be an improvement, since it's just stretching the truth, and making a false statement.

[Minister of Truth]

Another reminder to everyone as to why communism is evil in theory, and not just in practice, despite the constant meme that stupid morons have been peddling since the Bolsheviks and their embrace of terror.

Anyway, just for fun, I say it's time for the Church to hold the Council of Pyongyang.

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Holy fuck your retarded