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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    The UN still has people with guns enforcing their agenda when they want.

    Your fixation on it being "borrowed" is irrelevant.
    No, it isn't. Hence the hours of fun improving your understanding of how the UN works.

    And, the US is almost always willing to "help" because the stuff we don't like, we simply veto as a permanent member. Therefore stuff we do like passes, stuff we don't never does.

    The UN is pretty much an extension of the US on other places. Held in check by Russia and China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No, it isn't.
    Yes. IT is.
    Hence the hours of fun improving your understanding of how the UN works.

    And, the US is almost always willing to "help" because the stuff we don't like, we simply veto as a permanent member. Therefore stuff we do like passes, stuff we don't never does.

    The UN is pretty much an extension of the US on other places. Held in check by Russia and China.
    And our leadership is pretty much a bunch internationalist assholes. This offers no succor, sucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Yes. IT is.


    And our leadership is pretty much a bunch internationalist assholes. This offers no succor, sucker.
    Oh noees. The US are jerks so that means you are still wrong.. wait... Yep. Still wrong.

    The reality is your excuse, "We send troops" is meaningless when the UN pretty much is an extension of our will, if we don't like what they want to do we simply veto it.

    The root of your argument is fallacious, therefore all that extends from it is the fruit of the poisoned tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Oh noees. The US are jerks so that means you are still wrong.. wait... Yep. Still wrong.

    The reality is your excuse, "We send troops" is meaningless when the UN pretty much is an extension of our will, if we don't like what they want to do we simply veto it.
    You mean the elite of the nation's will.

    ENlisted men who don't want to serve are court martialed.

    Bottom Line: The UN has military force when it wants it and we agree to it, which is most of the time, considering the UN is an extension of the will of the globalist elites of our nation.

    First it was weak, and we hardly ever pay our dues. Now it's a direct extension of our will. Are we weak or strong damo? Make up your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    You mean the elite of the nation's will.

    ENlisted men who don't want to serve are court martialed.

    Bottom Line: The UN has military force when it wants it and we agree to it, which is most of the time, considering the UN is an extension of the will of the globalist elites of our nation.

    First it was weak, and we hardly ever pay our dues. Now it's a direct extension of our will. Are we weak or strong damo? Make up your mind.
    LOL.

    Enlisted men who refuse orders are Article 15 and booted. That happens regardless of the order, including where to go and what to do when they get there.

    The "strong/weak" thing is not my argument, that is a classic strawman fallacy.

    Bottom line: The UN can't send troops to places the US doesn't want them to because the US vetoes it. They don't have troops whenever they want and they must have the approval of all members of the Security council to even get to send troops anywhere.

    Of course if the US wants to send troops somewhere that China doesn't like China vetoes it.
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    The real bottom line: The UN has no army. You know it, you attempt to play word games to make members' armies into the UN's. Even when you know that they are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    The real bottom line: The UN has no army. You know it, you attempt to play word games to make members' armies into the UN's. Even when you know that they are not.
    THe real real bottom line:

    The UN does have access to armies to enforce it's agenda. If they are permanent or ON LOAN makes no difference.

    IF the UN is merely an extension of our will, why not just do things in our own name? To get around that pesky Posse Comitatus law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    THe real real bottom line:

    The UN does have access to armies to enforce it's agenda. If they are permanent or ON LOAN makes no difference.

    IF the UN is merely an extension of our will, why not just do things in our own name? To get around that pesky Posse Comitatus law?
    We often do. Bosnia was one of those. Well, we used NATO, but not the UN...

    Look. I agree, International Army = Bad. Where I disagree is in the reality. There is no international army, no dedicated UN troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    We often do. Bosnia was one of those. Well, we used NATO, but not the UN...

    Look. I agree, International Army = Bad. Where I disagree is in the reality. There is no international army, no dedicated UN troops.
    So their on loan for specific projects. Look, Your word games don't change the reality that The UN has access to military force and uses it to achieve it's agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    So their on loan for specific projects. Look, Your word games don't change the reality that The UN has access to military force and uses it to achieve it's agenda.
    Again, the fact is there is no such thing as a UN army, which was just "one thing that isn't happening" that you asked for. I gave three, and this was the one that had your "best argument" that still failed.

    You were wrong. Now you attempt to say things like, "Well, even though they aren't an International Army, and aren't really UN forces they really 'kinda' are because see, when the Security council votes some people lend some troops...."

    Your twist and spin and silly wordgames notwithstanding.

    Reality = No UN Army. It doesn't exist. Not there. Isn't real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Again, the fact is there is no such thing as a UN army, which was just "one thing that isn't happening" that you asked for. I gave three, and this was the one that had your "best argument" that still failed.

    You were wrong. Now you attempt to say things like, "Well, even though they aren't an International Army, and aren't really UN forces they really 'kinda' are because see, when the Security council votes some people lend some troops...."

    Your twist and spin and silly wordgames notwithstanding.

    Reality = No UN Army. It doesn't exist. Not there. Isn't real.
    It's there when it's needed. It's on loan from member states as needed. You already admitted this.

    Your pathetic and desperate denials are becoming quite hilarious. Keep up the good work, Bozo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    It's there when it's needed. It's on loan from member states as needed. You already admitted this.

    Your pathetic and desperate denials are becoming quite hilarious. Keep up the good work, Bozo.
    Not "as needed" I said as "willing" (member states reject the call very often). And that is only when one of the perm members doesn't veto it to begin with.

    Again.

    Reality doesn't match your word games. What you fear, isn't real. It is a paper tiger. A false ghost of the Scooby Doo variety. A projection of fear, not of reality... (pick your saying...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Not "as needed" I said as "willing" (member states reject the call very often). And that is only when one of the perm members doesn't veto it to begin with.

    Again.

    Reality doesn't match your word games. What you fear, isn't real. It is a paper tiger. A false ghost. A projection of fear, not of reality...

    No. Your word games fail to obscure the reality that the UN has access to military force, and uses it. The veto power is not comforting considering most governments are composed of assholes.
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    And again.

    Are you going to pretend that the "new age movement", already dropping in popularity even in California, is some new religion now?

    What about my other points. You've already lost this one. At least you are admitting that the troops are loaned when member states find the cause worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    No. Your word games fail to obscure the reality that the UN has access to military force, and uses it. The veto power is not comforting considering most governments are composed of assholes.
    LOL.

    At least you admit that they don't have an army of their own now. That's the first step.

    Now, let's talk about how effective the UN is at actually getting anything at all done that is worth anything or makes any changes.

    Let's also begin to talk about my other points. "No world religion" and "no world police force". Both of which are even less existent than the non-existent UN Army.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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