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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    For the Religious Whacks, free will is sin.
    Not necessarily; because negative choices have negative consequence and visa versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Not necessarily; because negative choices have negative consequence and visa versa.
    They believe choosing anything other than the "will of God" is a sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They believe choosing anything other than the "will of God" is a sin.
    And how are we to know what God wants us to do, outside of the 10 Commandments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Because good choices have good consequences and negative choices have negative consequences; plus even you admitted this and explained why there are punishments.

    Did your children have free will to either follow your dictates or to not follow them??

    God has also told us his rules.
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
    Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
    Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
    Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
    Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    No, I’ve shown you how free will is a bogus concept.
    Did you post this of your own free will, or did someone force you to do it? See? I just proved you have free will.

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    What's going on here is that those who reject God are desperately trying to come up with an excuse for exercising their free will and rejecting God. Well. God ain't buying it. You've made your choice and you will pay the price. That's the truth.

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    What People have to believe in is that the four-limbs, two-armed, one head, two leg, living creature is the Highest biological form ---and that God is the originating source of Personhood.

    When you are saying "God" you are actually arguing about Personhood...And how that Personhood that might or might NOT be considered the Apex of existence.

    We are non-material souls in a material world of material Personhood, where we wonder if their is a supreme non-material Person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    What's going on here is that those who reject God are desperately trying to come up with an excuse for exercising their free will and rejecting God. Well. God ain't buying it. You've made your choice and you will pay the price. That's the truth.
    And you are absolutely correct, in my opinion.


    Someone doing the wrong thing, for the right reason, can be and is subjective; but denying God is their free will and looking surprised, that millisecond after leaving this plane, is just a little late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    What People have to believe in is the the four-armed one head two leg living creature is the Highest biological form ---and God is the origin of Personhood.

    You are saying "God" when you are arguing about Personhood that may only be considered the Apex of existence, or how it may NOT be the Apex of existence.

    We are non-material souls in a material world of material Personhood, where we wonder if their is a supreme Person.
    Having doubts is human nature and sometimes even believers have doubts; but totally denying is another situation.

    And no, I don't believe in death bed absolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Did you post this of your own free will, or did someone force you to do it? See? I just proved you have free will.
    It’s fate, that determined my posting on this board, addiction compels me to keep doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It’s fate, that determined my posting on this board, addiction compels me to keep doing it.
    Addiction is still free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Having doubts is human nature and sometimes even believers have doubts; but totally denying is another situation.

    And no, I don't believe in death bed absolution.
    I have to disagree with you here. I would agree with you, if that someone knew about Christ for several years and waited until he's on his deathbed so he could be spared having to give up his sin and follow Christ. On the other hand, there is what Christ said to the thief on the cross.

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    Free a subject that has been long debated, even with Christianity itself. Did Calvin agree with Luther? Is free will limited by our nature, that old nature, nurture thing. Do we have free will because we believe we have free will, but are we deceived?

    I think it is a question humans will struggle with for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    And how are we to know what God wants us to do, outside of the 10 Commandments?
    Those in a fundamentalist church need only to ask the head minister. He will gladly tell them.
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