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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Did Don renege on a bet with him too? Imagine if all you sniveling self victimized white guys all found out you ain't pure white.
    Cherokee and Delaware ... she claimed
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    158 genders? Go ahead and list them, please.

    I'll wait.
    Just 58...
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    Question. Why does anyone care what these ignorant right wing Repuke losers think about anything. Look at the board. It is littered with sixth grade retarded thread titles from little fascist troll living in moms garage in whatever flyover hellscape their poor ancestors stopped on the way west in the 1800s. They will never go anywhere, be anything important, never get a decent education. They will eke out a living, or not, to raise children who pray to god they can escape to the east coast or California or Seattle or fuck sake, anywhere. But you guys respond to these low life trash as if they had a point. They have no point and no reason to even wake up and drop a sanka into that Dixie cup in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Question. Why does anyone care what these ignorant right wing Repuke losers think about anything. Look at the board. It is littered with sixth grade retarded thread titles from little fascist troll living in moms garage in whatever flyover hellscape their poor ancestors stopped on the way west in the 1800s. They will never go anywhere, be anything important, never get a decent education. They will eke out a living, or not, to raise children who pray to god they can escape to the east coast or California or Seattle or fuck sake, anywhere. But you guys respond to these low life trash as if they had a point. They have no point and no reason to even wake up and drop a sanka into that Dixie cup in the morning.
    You continually post and respond. What's that say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You continually post and respond. What's that say?
    I suffer fools? You are the only one one the right I see, and you are teetering towards full tard yourself. That's a memo!

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    Who needs a DNA test? You can just identify as whatever you want. ANd go into any bathroom you choose.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I suffer fools? You are the only one one the right I see, and you are teetering towards full tard yourself. That's a memo!
    Look how much time I spend on this board. That makes me a full tard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    " ... the results were enough for Taylor to update his birth certificate last November: It now says that he is black, Native American and Caucasian.

    Taylor acknowledges that he looks white. But despite being “visually Caucasian,” as he puts it, he considers himself to be multiracial.

    “I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

    After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

    The legal battle got its start in 2013. With the test results in hand, Taylor applied to get his insurance agency certified as a minority-owned business by Washington state’s Office of Minority and Women’s Business Enterprises. As the Seattle Times first reported, he was initially rejected on the grounds that he wasn’t visibly identifiable as a minority. ... "



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1707a2fe7e38
    Defining race genetically doesn't make sense if you're talking about affirmative action. There are two major arguments in favor of affirmative action:

    (1) To counterbalance the negative impact of racism individuals have experienced, to create a fairer overall system at the individual level.

    (2) To seed under-privileged communities with more successful people, to disrupt some of the forces that create systemic racism.

    When you're dealing with someone who doesn't appear to be a member of a discriminated-against minority group, then the first argument in favor of affirmative action doesn't apply (he wasn't subjected to racism, because people weren't aware he had any link to that race).

    When he's also not from one of the under-privileged communities, the second argument doesn't apply either. It's not, for example, like if this "visually Caucasian" person has more business success, thanks to getting more business contracts from the government as a "minority" business owner, he will serve as an inspiration for other blacks in underprivileged communities and otherwise contribute to those communities in ways we might expect to disrupt the racial-underclass dynamics of our society.

    Unfortunately, while it's clear this guy should not be treated as a minority for those purposes, it's not at all clear how the government should design and implement rules to prevent such misfires (which will become increasingly common the more racial lines break down).

    What I'd advocate is a shift of affirmative action to a economic and geographic model. For example, designate people based on how the average income of their parents when they were children compared to the average income in their geographic area. That would give preferential treatment to those who had less advantages growing up.... which would also have a tendency to disproportionately help out underprivileged minority groups, and to seed poorer communities with successful people.

    Just as a quick side note, there are also issues around those who are not members of races that get affirmative action, but look like they are, such that they theoretically would be faced with the same discrimination. For example, I had a Sri Lankan American friend who people regularly mistook for an African American -- some Sri Lankans have very dark skin and hair similar to people descended from Africans. For example, this man is Sri Lankan:



    One of the two arguments for affirmative action would apply to such people, since they face individual racial discrimination the same way an African American would. Yet, for purposes of most affirmative action programs, they're "Asian," which means if anything affirmative action will work against them (since, for example, many universities effectively cap the number of people of Asian descent they'll accept).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Facebook gender options?

    And here I was, thinking you were going to post something legit about gender.

    Silly me

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Facebook gender options?

    And here I was, thinking you were going to post something legit about gender.

    Silly me
    Take your pick...many before you have..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    " ... the results were enough for Taylor to update his birth certificate last November: It now says that he is black, Native American and Caucasian.

    Taylor acknowledges that he looks white. But despite being “visually Caucasian,” as he puts it, he considers himself to be multiracial.

    “I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

    After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

    The legal battle got its start in 2013. With the test results in hand, Taylor applied to get his insurance agency certified as a minority-owned business by Washington state’s Office of Minority and Women’s Business Enterprises. As the Seattle Times first reported, he was initially rejected on the grounds that he wasn’t visibly identifiable as a minority. ... "



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1707a2fe7e38
    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Cherokee and Delaware ... she claimed
    Considering yur record of accuracy she may be right:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...erson-of-color
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Looks like the Left is going to use Pocohantas to ... define race.
    Blather on, parrot!


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    I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

    After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

    After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.
    A DNA test could become a requirement to qualify for AA, depending on how this court case is decided.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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