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Thread: Philosphy, free will, and the absence of Religious authority

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA! I started my first successful company when I was 20! My son started his (and he is also successful) when he was 23! You consider that age 'immature'??? That's just bigotry, that is.
    You sound very immature to me. Very immature.

    Did your father "lend you a million" to start out?

    Then you just nullified your own argument.
    No I did not!

    Wait...what? You have now created a paradox. Which is it, Frank?
    Play with it as you will.

    I have been correct...and you incorrect on this issue.

    Now, if only you had the spine to acknowledge it.


    Hey...YOU built the paradox.
    There is no paradox.

    Christianity became the official religion of Rome...and within decades Rome essentially was out of business as an empire. That is what I said right from the beginning.

    You realize I am correct. Grow the spine to acknowledge it.

    C'mon. It won't hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You sound very immature to me. Very immature.
    People that start and run successful companies are not immature, Frank.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Did your father "lend you a million" to start out?
    No! He didn't have it at the time!
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...deleted irrational portion...
    You must clear your paradox. Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    People that start and run successful companies are not immature, Frank.
    Really?

    Is that written in stone somewhere? On some tablets that were brought from a mountain?

    If in fact you started and ran a successful company (something I have no way of verifying because you are too chicken to post under your real name)...apparently they can sound very immature.

    Under any circumstances...YOU sound very immature to me.

    No! He didn't have it at the time!
    Okay.

    Neither did mine.

    You must clear your paradox. Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.
    I did not argue both sides, Mr. Night.

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    Lecturing me on logic!

    A guy who essentially presented a syllogism that goes:

    P1: People who start and run successful businesses are not immature. (Gratuitous P1...totally unsubstantiated or established.)

    P2: I am a person who started and ran a successful business. (Unsubtantiated P2)

    C: Therefore I am not immature.

    Holy shit...if the C has been, therefore I am full of shit...even I would have bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Really?
    Is that written in stone somewhere? On some tablets that were brought from a mountain?
    Well, obviously, YOU think that immature people are capable of starting and running successful businesses!
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    If in fact you started and ran a successful company (something I have no way of verifying because you are too chicken to post under your real name)
    That's the problem with any claim of credential or personal history on any forum. Deal with it. I really don't care if you believe me or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...apparently they can sound very immature.
    So you said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Under any circumstances...YOU sound very immature to me.
    You really seem to want to make this particular insult. Did you know insults are a fallacy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I did not argue both sides, Mr. Night.
    Yes you did. You can't clear your paradox by denying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Lecturing me on logic!

    A guy who essentially presented a syllogism that goes:

    P1: People who start and run successful businesses are not immature. (Gratuitous P1...totally unsubstantiated or established.)

    P2: I am a person who started and ran a successful business. (Unsubtantiated P2)

    C: Therefore I am not immature.

    Holy shit...if the C has been, therefore I am full of shit...even I would have bought it.
    Obviously, you think that people who run successful businesses are immature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Obviously, you think that people who run successful businesses are immature.
    ^Crickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Well, obviously, YOU think that immature people are capable of starting and running successful businesses!
    I imagine some can and some cannot...just like some mature people can and some cannot.

    Only an illogical person would claim that anyone starting and running a successful business must be mature.

    That's the problem with any claim of credential or personal history on any forum. Deal with it. I really don't care if you believe me or not.
    You were the one who brought it up...even though it has no bearing on what we were discussing.


    So you said.
    Yeah, you sound very immature to me.

    You really seem to want to make this particular insult. Did you know insults are a fallacy?
    Stop with the "fallacy" bullshit. You have already shown your abilities with logic are poor.



    Yes you did. You can't clear your paradox by denying it.
    I deny that anything I have said is a paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Obviously, you think that people who run successful businesses are immature.
    That is also illogical. Nothing I have said can lead to that conclusion.

    Grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Yes, and on that tangent First Amendment seems to be the liberals favorite.

    Second amendment is the favorite of conservatives.


    Unsurprising, really.
    Masterpiece Cakeshop.

    No gun rights were exercised during the course of the left shitting on the 1st Amendment (probably to their sorrow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Masterpiece Cakeshop.

    No gun rights were exercised during the course of the left shitting on the 1st Amendment (probably to their sorrow).
    The gay cake thingy? Not a free speech issue.

    Those bakers are free to talk to anyone about how much they hate gays, how evil gays are, and they can organize all the protests and marches they want to advocate against gays. They are welcome to tell their neighbors how much they hate gays.

    My understanding is the court said they cannot violate discrimination laws, violate the civil rights of others, when they are engaged in interstate commerce. Basically, you are free to choose to not engage in interstate commerce if you feel like you want to violate the civil rights of others.

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    they need to place an I HATE GAYS sign at their doors so gay people know not to use their businesses


    then their business can go bankrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The gay cake thingy? Not a free speech issue.

    Those bakers are free to talk to anyone about how much they hate gays, how evil gays are, and they can organize all the protests and marches they want to advocate against gays. They are welcome to tell their neighbors how much they hate gays.

    My understanding is the court said they cannot violate discrimination laws, violate the civil rights of others, when they are engaged in interstate commerce. Basically, you are free to choose to not engage in interstate commerce if you feel like you want to violate the civil rights of others.
    All of which violates the 1st Amendment that you claim to respect.

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