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    Default Brits' life-expectancy decreasing.

    Life expectancy progress in UK 'stops for first time'

    It could be because it's hard to keep on improving every year. It could be because of hard winters, or difficult flu seasons. But we're not sure about exactly what has caused this trend.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45638646
    It's going to take some time before the dumb Brits realize that that's what happens when their government adds five more years to their working lives before they receive a retirement pension.
    The government will never accept that, obviously. Their solution is to elect a government that will.


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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It's going to take some time before the dumb Brits realize that that's what happens when their government adds five more years to their working lives before they receive a retirement pension.
    The government will never accept that, obviously. Their solution is to elect a government that will.


    I, moon, confess to attempting to influence the outcome of elections.

    Life expectancy in the US is also going down.

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    There is trouble in Russia because the government wants to raise the retirement age. People are openly demonstrating against it.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It's going to take some time before the dumb Brits realize that that's what happens when their government adds five more years to their working lives before they receive a retirement pension.
    The government will never accept that, obviously. Their solution is to elect a government that will.


    I, moon, confess to attempting to influence the outcome of elections.
    In the US, the retirement age used to be close to life expectancy. The retirement age hasn't risen like life expectancy has. You don't see financial implications of that?

    The reason for life expectancy leveling off and reversing is the same in the UK as it is in the US: the deep fat fryer.

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    It's them damn Scots dragging the numbers down. That is what happens when you let a bunch of kilt-wearing, redheaded highlanders in your data pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    There is trouble in Russia because the government wants to raise the retirement age. People are openly demonstrating against it.

    With typical sardonic humor, Putin is proposing to raise the pensionable age for men from 60 to 65. The average life expectancy for men in Russia is 63 ...

    More money for his wars, eh? Make Russia Great Again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    With typical sardonic humor, Putin is proposing to raise the pensionable age for men from 60 to 65. The average life expectancy for men in Russia is 63 ...

    More money for his wars, eh? Make Russia Great Again!
    That's very similar to what FDR did when he set up Social Security.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    In the US, the retirement age used to be close to life expectancy. The retirement age hasn't risen like life expectancy has. You don't see financial implications of that?

    The reason for life expectancy leveling off and reversing is the same in the UK as it is in the US: the deep fat fryer.
    This was true for several decades. The recent drops in life expectancy over the past few years has been linked to the opioid epidemic, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    This was true for several decades. The recent drops in life expectancy over the past few years has been linked to the opioid epidemic, however.
    I'm not opposed to people killing themselves, be it french fries or drugs, as long as they don't impact me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    In the US, the retirement age used to be close to life expectancy. The retirement age hasn't risen like life expectancy has. You don't see financial implications of that?

    The reason for life expectancy leveling off and reversing is the same in the UK as it is in the US: the deep fat fryer.
    There didn't used to be a funded retirement age at all. Life expectancy rose, naturally, when the concept was introduced.
    " First they came for the journalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    There didn't used to be a funded retirement age at all. Life expectancy rose, naturally, when the concept was introduced.
    I find it hilarious that you're attempting a correlation between the two unrelated issues. To do so requires ignoring medical technology, industrial and transportation safety, refrigeration and sanitation, as well as environmental improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    I find it hilarious that you're attempting a correlation between the two unrelated issues. To do so requires ignoring medical technology, industrial and transportation safety, refrigeration and sanitation, as well as environmental improvements.
    The issues aren't unrelated. You can't really believe that, for example, a miner forced to work until aged 65 is a happier and healthier person than a miner who retires at 60 on a good pension. It's a ridiculous assertion and the laugh's on you.
    You also mention ' transportation ' as an aid to longevity . Aren't you aware of the filthy polluted air which kills people by the million worldwide ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The issues aren't unrelated. You can't really believe that, for example, a miner forced to work until aged 65 is a happier and healthier person than a miner who retires at 60 on a good pension. It's a ridiculous assertion and the laugh's on you.
    You also mention ' transportation ' as an aid to longevity . Aren't you aware of the filthy polluted air which kills people by the million worldwide ?
    You should also be aware that if that same miner and his employer were allowed to save for retirement in his own privately held portfolio he could retire earlier, live perpetually off the interest then bequeath the estate to his heirs. Your beloved Social Security practically ensures that the poor will always be poor.

    The air here is clean, maybe where you are they still use horses to haul people around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    It's them damn Scots dragging the numbers down. That is what happens when you let a bunch of kilt-wearing, redheaded highlanders in your data pool.
    Always the eurocentric way to attempt to beat into submission any local or indigenous population, same as they did and do in america; same disease.

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