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    I can prove God exists

    He saved us from that cunt Hillary Clinton and brought us Donald J Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Nothing physical can create itself. The universe is physical. That means it was created. That means God exists. Simple logic.
    Can something spiritual create itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Can something spiritual create itself?
    No matter what else you believe, it is a fact that there must be a cause that was not caused. Otherwise, you have an infinite regression of causes, which is impossible. There must be something or someone that was the original cause of everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Still waiting for an example of something that created itself. Anyone?
    Apparently, you think your god did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    No matter what else you believe, it is a fact that there must be a cause that was not caused. Otherwise, you have an infinite regression of causes, which is impossible. There must be something or someone that was the original cause of everything.
    Be man enough to acknowledge that EXISTENCE may always have EXISTED.

    This sophomoric thesis of yours about an uncaused cause...is pathetic. It was pathetic when Aquinas proposed it...and it is even more pathetic the way you are offering it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    "EXISTENCE may always have EXISTED."

    This sophomoric thesis of yours about an uncaused cause.
    "EXISTENCE may always have EXISTED."
    or
    "a cause that was not caused"

    Both add up to the same thing!

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    We are souls in the material ocean of Life [birth & death in-separately paired] in a world base on physical laws of duality [ie: black/white; up/down; left/right; male/female] etc.

    The singularity is summed up in the walking talking thinking creature at the top of the heap of it all.

    We are afloat [or submerged] in an ocean. We are bobbing in a vast place of inert elements ---where we play house--- the common denominator is personhood.

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    Frank,

    What is God?

    What is there to prove about this God?

    If you were shown God...then what?

    Have you an opinion/plan/speech ready ...for when you would be face-to-face with God?

    You don't know what to expect? You don't know what to do in the presence of God?

    Lodge complaints? Ask for a ham sandwich? Expect your feet to washed?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is proven?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is NOT proven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Frank,

    What is God?

    What is there to prove about this God?

    If you were shown God...then what?

    Have you an opinion/plan/speech ready ...for when you would be face-to-face with God?

    You don't know what to expect? You don't know what to do in the presence of God?

    Lodge complaints? Ask for a ham sandwich? Expect your feet to washed?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is proven?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is NOT proven?
    What in the fuck are you babbling on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    What in the fuck are you babbling on about?
    a] Answer the questions!

    What is God?

    What is there to prove about this God?

    If you were shown God...then what?

    Have you an opinion/plan/speech ready ...for when you would be face-to-face with God?

    You don't know what to expect? You don't know what to do in the presence of God?

    Lodge complaints? Ask for a ham sandwich? Expect your feet to washed?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is proven?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is NOT proven?

    b] If you don't answer ---then you are trolling about a topic that you can't even identify.

    Identify God!

    You can identify Elvis.
    You can identify 14 karat Gold.
    You can identify all sorts of sea life.
    You can identify many car models.
    You can identify pornography.
    You can identify a mugger in a line up.

    Please identify God.


    Blathering on and on about the existence of something you cannot identify!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    a] Answer the questions!

    What is God?

    What is there to prove about this God?

    If you were shown God...then what?

    Have you an opinion/plan/speech ready ...for when you would be face-to-face with God?

    You don't know what to expect? You don't know what to do in the presence of God?

    Lodge complaints? Ask for a ham sandwich? Expect your feet to washed?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is proven?

    What preparations should an educated and sincere person make if it is God's existence is NOT proven?

    b] If you don't answer ---then you are trolling about a topic that you can't even identify.

    Identify God!

    You can identify Elvis.
    You can identify 14 karat Gold.
    You can identify all sorts of sea life.
    You can identify many car models.
    You can identify pornography.
    You can identify a mugger in a line up.

    Please identify God.


    Blathering on and on about the existence of something you cannot identify!
    Apparently you are a fucking nut case.

    Crawl back to where you emerged...and sleep for a while.

    You are out of control.

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    Q. Can one prove Frank Aipsa has a girlfriend? or doesn't?

    A. WHAT THE FUCK IS A FRANK AIPSA? [But Wait! I don't care and don't want to know]

    That you can be 100% sure of!

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    Nope. One can not prove that god(s) exist or don't exist.

    Religion is an open functional system. Open functional systems do not have the power of proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    A negative can be proven.

    But one cannot prove a negative so universal as "There are no gods."

    Give this one a shot, though.

    Make the assertion, "There are no live African Elephants living in my basement right now."

    See if that cannot be proven.
    the goyim god can be disproven using their own goy bible
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

    — Golda Meir

    Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.


    “If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."






    ברוך השם

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    the goyim god can be disproven using their own goy bible
    Whatever. The "goyim" god...is the "non-goyim god" also. It was fucked up right from the beginning.

    Best that god had never been invented.

    In any case, I do not want to get into that horseshit.

    I am saying that a negative can be proven...but some negatives are too universal to be proven.

    Some positives cannot be proven either.

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