Can one prove god exists? or doesn't?

[davidpratt]

not even the simplest of physical thing can create itself, carry out the tasks it is made for. And we are talking about millions of species that are co existing, reproducing in a world that is beyond our frame of logic. Does that not explain the fact that there has to be a Creator who has made this system possible. For those who still believe that there is no God, do you honestly believe the iphone could have been made on its own. It's just a simple example

[Frank Apisa]

not even the simplest of physical thing can create itself, carry out the tasks it is made for. And we are talking about millions of species that are co existing, reproducing in a world that is beyond our frame of logic. Does that not explain the fact that there has to be a Creator who has made this system possible. For those who still believe that there is no God, do you honestly believe the iphone could have been made on its own. It's just a simple example

So...your version of logic say that what we humans see...IS TOO COMPLICATED TO EXIST WITHOUT A CREATOR.

And then you suppose something MUCH, MUCH, MUCH MORE COMPLICATED exists...and that it did not have a creator.

Can you truly not see the absurdity of that thinking, David?

The originator of this thread offers arguments so poor they do not even qualify as logic. Your comments are of the same ilk.

Grow the spine to acknowledge that you do not know if any gods exist or not. It will be a growing-up experience for you.

[hypGnosis]

Got to take you to task here davidpratt.

You claim:

not even the simplest of physical thing can create itself, ...

It appears that your reserve autogenetic properties/attributes for NON-PHYSICAL things?

Do you have an example of some thing that did create itself?

If non-physical things are capable of creating themselves, then how do you detect their existence?
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