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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Once again you are confirming my point, the big money schools. which are nearly all State schools, have decided to allocate their funding in football programs, in other words buy the best money can to insure a good football team, and I always thought the purpose of those institutions was to educate not put semi pro teams on a playing field
    The schools invested in their school, and many of them pay off big dividends. As you pointed out, those are the schools who win conferences, championships and go to bigger bowl games.

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    Schools in the NorthEast don't play money football, no school from that region will ever play in a playoff scenario, and I have no idea what school you think out of ND, Clemson, Alabama, and Oklahoma is in the NE

    And to make you happy, the probability that Alabama and Clemson plus perhaps one other team will always be playing for a national title under the current state of college football
    Notre Dame is in Indiana. If you divide the country into quadrants, it is in the northeast quadrant. The fact that it is not in New England does not change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Schools in the NorthEast don't play money football, no school from that region will ever play in a playoff scenario, and I have no idea what school you think out of ND, Clemson, Alabama, and Oklahoma is in the NE

    And to make you happy, the probability that Alabama and Clemson plus perhaps one other team will always be playing for a national title under the current state of college football
    Schools in the northeast don't play in bigger bowl games, with bigger payouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I disagree, the polls at the end of the year created more interest, lot of arguments, everyone knows the final four in football is always going to come out of a field of the same eight or nine teams. Kinda like NASCAR, they might have forty cars on the track but the high probability is that most aren't capable of winning the race

    It isn't like basketball where a Loyola of Chicago can surface, all it is is a national championship between eight or nine schools who have decided to put their money into building football programs
    If you look at the 10 ten schools as far as money spent on football, not all make the playoffs. In fact, some of them can suck some years.

    But the profits are there if they win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    If you look at the 10 ten schools as far as money spent on football, not all make the playoffs. In fact, some of them can suck some years.

    But the profits are there if they win.
    I have to continually explain this to people. A program such as OU (of course include Alabama, Ohio State, etc.) is very self-sustaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. Even the old BCS was better than the AP and coaches final poll and the current system is an improvement over the BCS. There's no question we're closer to a true nat'l champion than ever. But I agree with you, there should be more of a regional playoff.
    The problem I see with these Div. 1 teams is so many of their star players skipping bowl games because they're going to the NFL. They're weaker teams than what they played with during the regular season.
    But then again maybe that's not so bad. Gives a slight handicap to those teams that aren't basically farm teams for the NFL.
    I don't think people are skipping the real bowl games, though (Rose, Sun, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, and, maybe, Fiesta). No one should care if an NFL prospect skips the Cheez-It Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I have to continually explain this to people. A program such as OU (of course include Alabama, Ohio State, etc.) is very self-sustaining.
    The mid-level teams are the expensive ones. The top level pays for itself or more. The lower level schools don't spend. The mid-level spends enough to get some decent coaches and facilities and yet doesn't win enough to pay for it.

    Go hard or go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I don't think people are skipping the real bowl games, though (Rose, Sun, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, and, maybe, Fiesta). No one should care if an NFL prospect skips the Cheez-It Bowl.
    LSU had two skip the Fiesta .

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    Another disadvantage to more playoff games.

    Empty stadiums. Much of the season, teams play reasonably close to where the bulk of their fans live. If you want fans in their seats, adding another game that requires cross-country travel and time off from work, is not going to do it. I have a friend who lives in Nashville. He drove to the SEC Championship, but still had to spend on rooms (at inflated rates). He flew to Miami, and between airfare and hotel, dropped a little over $2k. The trip to CA for the championship will end up cost closer to $3k, and require another day off from work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Another disadvantage to more playoff games.

    Empty stadiums. Much of the season, teams play reasonably close to where the bulk of their fans live. If you want fans in their seats, adding another game that requires cross-country travel and time off from work, is not going to do it. I have a friend who lives in Nashville. He drove to the SEC Championship, but still had to spend on rooms (at inflated rates). He flew to Miami, and between airfare and hotel, dropped a little over $2k. The trip to CA for the championship will end up cost closer to $3k, and require another day off from work.
    All of this is so true...normal folks would have a difficult time affording one such trip, much less multiple trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Notre Dame is in Indiana. If you divide the country into quadrants, it is in the northeast quadrant. The fact that it is not in New England does not change that.
    Come on, Indiana is the upper MidWest, certainly not the NE nor even the middle Atlantic States, and ND is the one private school with the money to make a playoff, the schools money, they are in a unique situation, only home college scene that is tourist attraction even if you care less about football

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    The schools invested in their school, and many of them pay off big dividends. As you pointed out, those are the schools who win conferences, championships and go to bigger bowl games.
    They didn't invest in their schools, they invested in their football programs, they can, they are State schools, if the investment goes sour the State taxpayers will bail them out

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Schools in the northeast don't play in bigger bowl games, with bigger payouts.
    Ah, perhaps because they invest their money into the school rather than a football program

    You just keep endorsing my point, it is all about the money, not the game, the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    If you look at the 10 ten schools as far as money spent on football, not all make the playoffs. In fact, some of them can suck some years.

    But the profits are there if they win.
    There is no profit, money made goes back into the football program, at best, athletic programs, guys on Sabin staff get a raise, did you think the money for Alabama football pays the Philosophy professor's salary

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I have to continually explain this to people. A program such as OU (of course include Alabama, Ohio State, etc.) is very self-sustaining.
    According to publications put out by those schools? And it not just what you think is self-sustaining, what if OSU, I know you didn't mean OU, loses money on football one year, or doesn't make the level to pay their army of coaches, who makes up the difference to finance next years team?

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