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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    really?.....apart from the fact that they won't control the House, did you guys find some additional evidence that caused the case to "grow"..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    So Kav denies the allegations therefore he deserves to be impeached?

    Does MN Democrat Congressman Keith Ellison get kicked to the curb as well?
    In MN: Among Democrats, only 5% believe his accuser while 30% dismiss the allegation. 65% of Democrats aren’t sure.
    https://www.mediaite.com/online/poll...isons-accuser/
    He wanted to.impeach Trump whilst he was still the President elect, he is a hardwired cultural Marxist and it permeates everything he says. I used to respect the guy but he's become more and more deranged as time goes on. Still I wish him well with his battle with cancer, I have a very old friend who is currently on chemo and it is horrible to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Republicans will indeed put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court no matter what. That's obvious.

    But what is less obvious is there is a growing case for democrats to impeach him once he's on the court.
    President Donald Trump's nominee for the nation's highest court has been in headlines for weeks as he awaits approval by the Senate. Allegations and accusations have roiled the confirmation process, raising talks of whether he'll still go through. But there's another way that the Supreme Court pick might be vulnerable. There's also a possibility that Brett Kavanaugh could be impeached, and it's looking more and more plausible by the day.

    In light of the allegations, Kavanaugh's denials, and statements during his confirmation hearings, he may be vulnerable to impeachment, Radnofsky says. Here's a breakdown of how that might happen.

    In terms of grounds, impeachment requires only that Congress deems a high officer as posing a serious risk to the country's wellbeing or security, and that standard is even more stringent for a member of the judicial branch precisely because society holds them to a higher standard. "Congress knows that high standard," Radnofsky says.

    In terms of the grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh, the allegations alone are pretty damning for the reason stated above. Should the House decide to impeach him on those grounds, Radnofsky tells me, "The Senate will have a very heavy burden to decide does this undermine the integrity and public's confidence in the judge."

    But that's not all that could get Kavanaugh into trouble. Even before the allegations, Kavanaugh was already accused of having lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee during his confirmation hearings on a few different points, which has become its own controversy-laden pandora's box. Elite Daily reached out to the White House for comment on those accusations but did not receive a response at time of publication.

    But it's Kavanaugh's denials of these new assault allegations that provide the clearest possible grounds for impeachment. Deceit by a judge in any form could undermine public confidence in the judicial system as a whole (something seen as a risk to the country). So lying, while not a crime, is most definitely grounds for impeachment, Radnofsky says.
    https://www.elitedaily.com/p/can-bre...hs-in-11922069

    Make no mistake about it, democrats will come after him after they retake the House and quite possibly the Senate.
    I'd rather see him not get in than try for impeachment, which is incredibly difficult to pull off.

    I recall when I was a kid seeing billboards saying "Impeach Earl Warren," which never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'd rather see him not get in than try for impeachment, which is incredibly difficult to pull off.

    I recall when I was a kid seeing billboards saying "Impeach Earl Warren," which never happened.
    Kavanaugh and Gorsuch Both Went to the Same Elite Prep School...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/u...town-prep.html

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    Whatever the truth of the allegations, should a justice of the supreme court not be agreed by those he will judge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    What should be done with Ellison? Does he get a pass?
    You give Kavanaugh a pass .. why would you even ask about Ellison.

    You have no moral high ground to stand on.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'd rather see him not get in than try for impeachment, which is incredibly difficult to pull off.

    I recall when I was a kid seeing billboards saying "Impeach Earl Warren," which never happened.
    In some ways, impeachment is a better outcome.

    The seat will probably be left vacant until 2021 if democrats retake the Senate.

    Democrats should not shy away from what must be done because it won't be easy.

    Democratic voters are tired of the weakness of too many of their politicians.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    So Kav denies the allegations therefore he deserves to be impeached?

    Does MN Democrat Congressman Keith Ellison get kicked to the curb as well?
    In MN: Among Democrats, only 5% believe his accuser while 30% dismiss the allegation. 65% of Democrats aren’t sure.
    https://www.mediaite.com/online/poll...isons-accuser/
    Ellison gets a pass, he is black, and dumbasrocks is a racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Ellison gets a pass, he is black, and dumbasrocks is a racist.
    Are you giving Kavanaugh a pass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Republicans will indeed put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court no matter what. That's obvious.

    But what is less obvious is there is a growing case for democrats to impeach him once he's on the court.
    President Donald Trump's nominee for the nation's highest court has been in headlines for weeks as he awaits approval by the Senate. Allegations and accusations have roiled the confirmation process, raising talks of whether he'll still go through. But there's another way that the Supreme Court pick might be vulnerable. There's also a possibility that Brett Kavanaugh could be impeached, and it's looking more and more plausible by the day.

    In light of the allegations, Kavanaugh's denials, and statements during his confirmation hearings, he may be vulnerable to impeachment, Radnofsky says. Here's a breakdown of how that might happen.

    In terms of grounds, impeachment requires only that Congress deems a high officer as posing a serious risk to the country's wellbeing or security, and that standard is even more stringent for a member of the judicial branch precisely because society holds them to a higher standard. "Congress knows that high standard," Radnofsky says.

    In terms of the grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh, the allegations alone are pretty damning for the reason stated above. Should the House decide to impeach him on those grounds, Radnofsky tells me, "The Senate will have a very heavy burden to decide does this undermine the integrity and public's confidence in the judge."

    But that's not all that could get Kavanaugh into trouble. Even before the allegations, Kavanaugh was already accused of having lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee during his confirmation hearings on a few different points, which has become its own controversy-laden pandora's box. Elite Daily reached out to the White House for comment on those accusations but did not receive a response at time of publication.

    But it's Kavanaugh's denials of these new assault allegations that provide the clearest possible grounds for impeachment. Deceit by a judge in any form could undermine public confidence in the judicial system as a whole (something seen as a risk to the country). So lying, while not a crime, is most definitely grounds for impeachment, Radnofsky says.
    https://www.elitedaily.com/p/can-bre...hs-in-11922069

    Make no mistake about it, democrats will come after him after they retake the House and quite possibly the Senate.
    Democrats won’t have to go after him if they can delay his confirmation vote till after the midterm elections if they take back the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    In some ways, impeachment is a better outcome.

    The seat will probably be left vacant until 2021 if democrats retake the Senate.

    Democrats should not shy away from what must be done because it won't be easy.

    Democratic voters are tired of the weakness of too many of their politicians.
    I definitely agree with that last.

    The whole impeachment thing bothers me. It doesn't seem likely, if you're trying to base impeachment on someone's past behaviors, that it would succeed.

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    Brett Kavanaugh Should Be Impeached
    A key lawyer says: “He lied. Under oath.” That’s impeachable.

    Patrick Leahy, the senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the dean of the current US Senate, is not prone to hyperbole. So when he expresses concerns after the completion of US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing about “untruthful testimony, under oath and on the record,” he should be taken seriously.

    As the nomination of Kavanaugh has been under consideration, Leahy has focused attention on an incident involving Republican staffers on the Judiciary Committee who, between 2001 and 2003, hacked into the private computer files of six Senate Democrats (including Leahy) and stole 4,670 files, which “they used to assist in getting President Bush’s most controversial judicial nominees confirmed.” The scheme was exposed late in 2003, when The Wall Street Journal published some of the stolen materials, revealing what Leahy describes as a “scandal” that “amounted to a digital Watergate—a theft not unlike Russia’s hacking of the DNC.”

    “During all of this,” recalls Leahy, “Judge Kavanaugh worked in the White House Counsel’s Office on judicial nominations. He worked hand-in-hand with (GOP Senate aide Manuel) Miranda to advance these same controversial nominees. Not surprisingly, Judge Kavanaugh was asked extensively about his knowledge of the theft during both his 2004 and 2006 hearings. And I mean extensively: 111 questions from six senators, both Republicans and Democrats.”

    Leahy explains that Kavanaugh “testified under oath—and he testified repeatedly—that he never received any stolen materials, and that he knew nothing about it until it was public. He testified that if he had suspected anything ‘untoward’ he would have reported it. At the time, we left it there. We didn’t have evidence to suggest otherwise.” Now, Leahy tells The Washington Post, there is evidence to suggest that Kavanaugh was “not truthful.”

    “Judge Kavanaugh’s perjury in the process of obtaining his current position on the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit should…lead to his removal from the federal judiciary and should disqualify him from ever holding a future federal office.” —Free Speech for People

    Kavanaugh has claimed that he did not suspect the materials he handled, and relied on as a key Bush-Cheney administration aide, were stolen from the Democrats. But Leahy says, “There were numerous emails sent to him that made it very clear this was stolen information, including a draft letter from me.”

    Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, was equally blunt in her conclusion. “Brett Kavanaugh used materials stolen from Democratic senators to advance President Bush’s judicial nominees,” she wrote last week. “He was asked about this in 2004, 2006 and this week. His answers were not true.”
    https://www.thenation.com/article/br...-be-impeached/

    What were Republicans trying to hide?

    Democrats will find out.
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    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Ellison gets a pass, he is black, and dumbasrocks is a racist.
    Tell us Country bumpkin, Do you believe that white people, as a race, are superior to any other race of people?
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Democrats won’t have to go after him if they can delay his confirmation vote till after the midterm elections if they take back the Senate.
    True.

    Attack him from all sides with plans A, B, and C.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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