ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
And here's Woodie Guthrie:
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ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
We can't leave out Phil Ochs:
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ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
Go fuck yourselves
No peace.
President Jimmy Carter:
“We can choose to alleviate suffering. We can choose to work together for peace. We can make these changes — and we must.”
Waging Peace Every Day - Still!
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ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
Sorry,
No war mongering allowed today.
There is no reason to justify or accept war.
We must always strive for peace.
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"Tell people that war is an evil, and they will laugh; for who does not know it? Tell them that patriotism is an evil, and most of them will agree, but with a reservation. "Yes," they will say, "wrong patriotism is an evil; but there is another kind, the kind we hold. What this real, good patriotism consists in, we are never told; or, if anything is said about it, instead of explanation we get declamatory, inflated phrases, or, finally, some other conception is substituted for patriotism – something which has nothing in common with the patriotism we all know, and from the results of which we all suffer so severely."
-- Lev Tolstoy
PoliTalker (09-21-2018), ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
Hello Cypress,
Interesting.
It is surprising that he would say most people agree patriotism is evil.
What's wrong with patriotism?
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Because to Tolstoy, most people were using the word "patriotism" as a substitute for nationalism.
There is no question that someone who writes a book like "War and Peace" is a Russian patriot, loyal to his nation in the defense of his countrymen in the face of invasion and aggression.
Tolstoy was in general a pacifist and a humanist. Especially later in life. I think he was hanging out with a lot of like minded people who probably shared his opinion to one degree or another.
christiefan915 (09-21-2018), PoliTalker (09-21-2018)
Hello Cypress,
Ahh, now it makes sense.
Thank you.
So cool to learn things like that. Never read Tolstoy.
Yes. Nationalism is a negative energy. It detracts from having a great nation. Nationalism is win/lose philosophy.
We want win/win deals. Always win/win. It's got to be win/win, or there is something wrong with it.
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Canned Heat:
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ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
What is war good for again?
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Bob Marley, anyone?
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I love this one.
Here is an awesome version of Stand By Me,
It's a composite of people all over the world put together by the magic of digital recording.
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ThatOwlWoman (09-21-2018)
Marvin Gaye:
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