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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    BOTTOM LINE:

    Anyone who asserts there are gods (or there is A GOD)...is simply sharing a blind guess about the unknown.

    Anyone who asserts there are no gods...is simply sharing a blind guess about the unknown.

    Why don't we all agree that whether there are gods or no gods...is something we DO NOT KNOW...and can only blindly guess about.

    ADDED NOTE:

    There is absolutely no way one can arrive at "At least one god exists" using reason, logic, math, or science.

    There also is no way to arrive at "It is more likely that at least one god exists than that no gods exist" using reason, logic, math, or science.

    Conversely...

    ...there is absolutely no way one can arrive at "No gods exist" using reason, logic, math, or science...

    ...and there is no way to arrive at "It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one god" using reason, logic, math, or science.

    Very Buddhist [koan-ish-esque] is your borrowed logic.

    Aso-deska Frank-san.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Very Buddhist [koan-ish-esque] is your borrowed logic.

    Aso-deska Frank-san.
    I have no idea what you mean here, B.

    If you want to be less circumspect, I'll reply.

    The "borrowed logic" comment seems off base.

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    Frank, why do you care what others believe?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Frank, why do you care what others believe?
    What makes you guess that I care what others guess, RB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    What makes you guess that I care what others guess, RB?
    Uh, your many posts on the subject?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah, most people in the West are concerned.

    And, PS: The only reason for the 2nd Amendment (guns) is to overthrow an oppressive government. (You know, like one that would use Helicopter Gunships and Battle Tanks on Farm Families in rural communities, like Waco).
    Why is the Trump gang still in power then, never having been properly elected? Russians have got into the NRA leadership, I expect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Which Jericho? There were 11 of them... earthquakes, you know.
    poor sad atheists....drowning in irrelevancy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    poor sad atheists....drowning in irrelevancy.....
    “If the Bible says it, it happened.” - PMP

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    poor sad atheists....drowning in irrelevancy.....
    oh the irony!!


    Young adults around the world are less religious by several measures

    http://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/y...eral-measures/
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    Christianity as default is gone': the rise of a non-Christian Europe

    Figures show a majority of young adults in 12 countries have no faith, with Czechs least religious

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...urvey-religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    poor sad atheists....drowning in irrelevancy.....
    The more education the less christinsanity

    The nation’s religious makeup has shifted dramatically in the past 15 years, with a sharp drop in the number of Americans who say they’re members of a Protestant denomination – still the nation’s most prevalent religious group – and a rise in the number who profess no religion.

    On average last year, 36 percent of Americans in ABC News/Washington Post polls identified themselves as members of a Protestant faith, extending a gradual trend down from 50 percent in 2003. That includes an 8-point drop in the number of evangelical white Protestants,

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/prot...ry?id=54995663 an important political group.
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    The U.S. Is Retreating from Religion

    By 2030, say projections, a third of Americans will have no religious preference


    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...from-religion/
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    oh the irony!!


    Young adults around the world are less religious by several measures

    http://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/y...eral-measures/
    that's to be expected.....the young will come around.....its you old farts that never did that are sad......

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Christianity as default is gone': the rise of a non-Christian Europe

    Figures show a majority of young adults in 12 countries have no faith, with Czechs least religious

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...urvey-religion
    do you think there is no link between the fact that Europe has grown more non Christian, more socialist and more irrelevant in the world at the same time?......they've become so weak they are a target for Muslim takeover.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The more education the less christinsanity .
    and yet here we are, you and I, disproving that very claim.....

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