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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    but it's not. They could have presented this *"story" months ago...they did not and now she won't talk. Her classmate "witness" has withdrawn her statements...which she said she made only because they "empowered" her...kind of the flavor of the whole smear....
    It was in July when the story was first heard and at the time, Mrs. Ford did not want it released, so no, it couldn't have been presented months ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Show Ho View Post
    Lying to police is a crime as well.
    So why not just have the FBI do it? It's the Federal Bureau of Investigation, not the Federal Bureau of I Don't Feel Like Doing This.

    Besides, local police are too busy shooting unarmed black people and arresting minorities for pot. Their hands are full.


    Quote Originally Posted by No Show Ho View Post
    If you really want this to be investigated, it shouldn't matter to you who investigates
    Actually, it does.

    Because lying to the local police isn't a felony, but lying to the FBI is.

    The Constitution does not give Congress the power to criminalize lying to law enforcement, just criminalizing lying to federal agents.

    So the penalties for lying to local cops vary depending on jurisdiction, but in no event is it a federal felony charge.

    That's why the FBI needs to do this.

    It's easy to understand why Conservatives don't want the FBI involved; they don't have a good track record when it comes to telling them the truth (Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Papadopolous).
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    It was in July when the story was first heard and at the time, Mrs. Ford did not want it released, so no, it couldn't have been presented months ago
    Then she shouldn't ave given them the info....what did she think they were going to do with it? They did nothing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    she has no facts...and is not prepared to discuss it. case closed...
    Her victim accounts is evidence.

    You keep moving this bar, but you don't seem to be realizing where you're placing it.

    She has called for an FBI investigation so that Conservatives can't risk lying to investigators.

    So that's why Conservatives are refusing that request; they know their guy can't get through a questioning without lying to the federal agents.
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    she didn't want to report it as a crime '

    that is her fucking right asshole


    she does want the American people and congress to know Kav is a fucking shit bird asshole before they vote on him


    If she gathered all the witnesses herself you would call it witness tampering dick lick

    a third party should gather this information to keep the process clean


    some professionals who do it for a living


    like the FBI

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Her victim accounts is evidence.

    You keep moving this bar, but you don't seem to be realizing where you're placing it.

    She has called for an FBI investigation so that Conservatives can't risk lying to investigators.

    So that's why Conservatives are refusing that request; they know their guy can't get through a questioning without lying to the federal agents.
    Sorry...she's going to have to testify....if she's not lying, now is the time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Sorry...she's going to have to testify....if she's not lying, now is the time....
    I'm sure you believe she's lying, just like every other time in the last eight years we've been presented with a possible sexual assault story for discussion, you have steadfastly blamed the female and exonerated the male. Remember the Brock Turner case? According to Toxic's Rape Rules, it was all that young woman's fault for 1) being there, 2) had some alcohol, 3) was female, and/or 4) she made it up even though the two witnesses who caught Turner SAW him assaulting her behind the dumpster. All your sympathies were with the "poor bright young man whose future is now ruined" because of that whore. I'm sure you believe that Dr. Ford is also a whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Sorry...she's going to have to testify....if she's not lying, now is the time....
    why no witnesses allowed by Grassley stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Sorry...she's going to have to testify....if she's not lying, now is the time....
    Liars don't ask the FBI to investigate their allegations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Sorry...she's going to have to testify....if she's not lying, now is the time....
    How will anyone be able to determine if she's lying or if Bretty's lying based on testimony before the Senate JC without an investigation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Liars don't ask the FBI to investigate their allegations.
    Sure they do...especially when they know that the FBI can not investigate in the first place.
    All they can do is perform a 7th background check on Kav which is allowed back to age 18.
    Teenage pool parties are investigated by local authorities, not the FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    How will anyone be able to determine if she's lying or if Bretty's lying based on testimony before the Senate JC without an investigation?
    There's really NOT a Single thing to investigate....so chances are....
    Hard to believe she presented a story with no facts...but, it's up to her now...everything is open to her...she should participate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Sure they do...especially when they know that the FBI can not investigate in the first place.
    The FBI can most definitely investigate this. The only ones preventing that from happening are Trump and the GOP.

    It's obvious why Conservatives don't want the FBI to investigate; they simply cannot help themselves from lying to the FBI (Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous).


    All they can do is perform a 7th background check on Kav which is allowed back to age 18.
    A background check is not an investigation.

    It seems that you all are quite fearful of Bretty lying to federal investigators. Probably because you've already seen what lying to the FBI gets you (Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous, Manafort), and you know you guys can't help but lie.


    Teenage pool parties are investigated by local authorities, not the FBI.
    No they're not. The FBI can investigate if they are told to do so. The ones telling them not to are all the people who desperately don't want to talk to federal agents. Obviously because you and they know that they'll end up lying to the FBI, just like four of those Trump people have already done and plead guilty to doing.

    Finally, lying to local police is not a felony. The penalties to lying to local PD vary depending on the jurisdiction. Having a federal investigation ups the stakes and imposes quite a strict penalty for perjury and lying to federal investigators.

    Also, local PD is too busy shooting unarmed black people and arresting minorities for possession of weed. So they're a little busy. Their plates are full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    There's really thing to investigate
    Seems like there's plenty to investigate: sexual assault and a cover-up.

    You're the ones who are arbitrarily saying there's nothing to investigate while simultaneously saying that Ford should testify about the incident.

    No one is fooled by your posturing, by the way.

    I see right through it.


    Hard to believe she presented a story with no facts
    She presented facts. She recounted what happened to her, and who was there while it happened.

    Of course, the only way to get to the bottom of it is to do an investigation.

    But you all don't want to do that, and it's pretty obvious why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The FBI can most definitely investigate this. The only ones preventing that from happening are Trump and the GOP.

    It's obvious why Conservatives don't want the FBI to investigate; they simply cannot help themselves from lying to the FBI (Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous).




    A background check is not an investigation.

    It seems that you all are quite fearful of Bretty lying to federal investigators. Probably because you've already seen what lying to the FBI gets you (Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous, Manafort), and you know you guys can't help but lie.




    No they're not. The FBI can investigate if they are told to do so. The ones telling them not to are all the people who desperately don't want to talk to federal agents. Obviously because you and they know that they'll end up lying to the FBI, just like four of those Trump people have already done and plead guilty to doing.

    Finally, lying to local police is not a felony. The penalties to lying to local PD vary depending on the jurisdiction. Having a federal investigation ups the stakes and imposes quite a strict penalty for perjury and lying to federal investigators.

    Also, local PD is too busy shooting unarmed black people and arresting minorities for possession of weed. So they're a little busy. Their plates are full.
    You have comprehension problem.
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