domer76 (09-20-2018)
domer76 (09-20-2018)
OPie fails again!
Similar numbers were killed in Puerto Rico directly from storm causes. The higher figure is due to the fact that the island spent almost a year without power, a lot of people are going to die in fact when your hospitals don't have electricity.
Also even if something similiar occurred in North Carolina, it would take about a year to produce similiar figures.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34
rjhenn (09-20-2018)
rjhenn (09-20-2018)
If roads are closed to hospitals because of a flood caused by a storm. and if the road was open but for the storm the person would live, the storm caused the death.
Not that complicated, TDAK, but certainly not as cut and dried as you would like.
PoliTalker (09-20-2018), rjhenn (09-20-2018)
This lead, this topic is a cesspool of ignorance."The press obviously lied about Maria" TK #1
First of all, the 3K figure didn't appear in prominent media until most of a year had elapsed.
It has not been most of a year since Flo.
Second, in the Carolina's we have building codes.
@PR if there are any such codes they're weaker, widely disregarded, with little if any enforcement.
Third,"The press obviously lied " TK #1
this assertion conflates the message with the messenger.
Such impact assessments take time, particularly within storm-ravaged infrastructure. And when done properly such assessments are methodical, and as accurate as practical.
Even if wrong by an order of magnitude, it's still alarming.
Interesting euphemism for tropical paradise."PR is a backward $#@!hole territory" TK #1
"This is an island. Surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water." U.S. President Trump, Washington DC 17/09/29 11:42 (/ MSNBC) commenting on Puerto Rico in context of the difficulty of providing U.S. federal disaster relief following hurricane Maria
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
Micawber (09-20-2018), PoliTalker (09-20-2018), rjhenn (09-20-2018)
I still can't believe they can't get their heads around, a small number dying in the hurricane, and the rest dying from the after effects, without needed assistance. One town was cut off from the rest of the island, because it's only outlet was completely destroyed. Texty obviously doesn't know the after effects of a hurricane. It was an island that was ravaged. No power, or clean water, sewage escaped into the rivers, when the flooding overflowed the system, most food destroyed. What the fuck does Texty expect if essentials don't start pouring in. It's was almost like on big deserted island, full of millions. The poorer neighborhoods never have recovered, and even some of the higher up ones had issues.
PoliTalker (09-20-2018)
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Cypress (09-20-2018), Phantasmal (09-20-2018)
Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!
THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!
There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)
Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!
THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!
There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)
Hello Text Drivers are Killers,
I have no problem discussing that. I didn't mention it because I am not going to make your points for you.
I also question your reasoning.
I do not dispute that Puerto Ricans are not permitted to vote in presidential elections, but I do question the reasoning.
Do you have a source to back up your contention that the reason is because they are not required to pay federal income tax?
The fact that they are not required to pay federal income tax is also linked to something which you failed to mention, namely that they do not qualify for federal welfare, either.
And more importantly, neither does the federal government allocate any pork expenditures to Puerto Rico. That is because, though they have representation, their powerless representatives cannot vote.
It should also be noted that even if they were required to pay income tax, most of them are so poor they would be below the poverty threshhold, and would not have to pay anything anyway.
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Please state something, anything, that the American press has lied about, which has not been corrected.
The main stream media is interested in accuracy, because their reputation depends upon it.
Any source will correct errors if and when they are pointed out to them.
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