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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Hopefully the rest of your family is not as stupid as you. Unfortunately I am beginning to think you are the most intelligent of the clan even with your IQ lower then your age,

    Did you happen to notice in your graph that it says "Trump elected"? That would be in November of 2016. Did you happen to notice what the trend was BEFORETrump was elected? The idea that the tax reform that gave billions to the wealthiest of America, and nothing to the middle class, is your delusion. Did you happen to notice what the market was when Obama was elected, and then when Trump was elected? Do you have a clue as to what the Bush recession did to the economy?

    And what is so hard to understand about the question? Who, or what, forced corporations to do business with China? Greed, and lower wages, is the answer. And it was your Repugnant ones (under Bush) that allowed China to have permanent membership in the WTO. The conditions for doing business (sharing tech advances, etc.) have been there since the beginning. Bush, and your Repugnant ones, did nothing about it. Obama sued the Chinese government for these violations of the WTO agreement over 200 times. He raised tariffs on China, all over the objections of the likes of Trump, and the Repugnant ones.

    Give it a break. The more you post the more you show how ignorant you really are.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...rade-war-steel

    Then you have to ask yourself why did Trump exempt the cloting industry, which includes both his manufacturing, and Ivanka's, from the tariff's.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09e4a8b2e72c3
    so you get the idea the WTO is pretty much powerless to enforce free trade. good. The answer then is not to rely on multi-lateral trade ( just like the TPP) it's to negotiate bilateral agreements with partners and get fair trade.
    Which is the point of tariffs.

    As to the manufacturing jobs, I SPECIFICALLY TOLD YOU -2018 is a bumper year.
    If you look at the graph you see the trend line jumping up on Trumps POTUS
    what you don't see is the steep curve for 2018.
    Why I told you about it _ i couldn't find a more recent graph.
    447k manufacturing jobs created since Trump was elected!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Manufacturers Are Hiring, and Hiring
    Apparently a cheerleader can make a difference for the U.S. economy. The tough trade talk may hurt, though. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...p-s-tough-talk

    A million jobs down and counting, Good job trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    What a brilliant solution to economic downturns! We'll just schedule a natural disaster every now and then and pay ppl with our insurance premiums to fix stuff!
    They don't call us welfare states for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    then foreign countries will not recognize US patents. or it will jeopardize the worldwide Patent Cooperation Treaty .
    The answer is not to put US patents at risk, it's to stop Chinese theft of IP
    LOL Good Luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    A million jobs down and counting, Good job trump
    I notice you guys never mention the Chinese malign trade barriers/IP theft. why is that? TDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    LOL Good Luck with that.
    that's been the attitude since China joined the WTO.
    so you are good with that huh? or maybe we should do something about it instead?

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    US, China Both Remain Defiant as Trade War Deepens

    Another $260 billion in total tariffs is set to take effect between the U.S. and China. Both sides are claiming they’ll be fine.
    https://thediplomat.com/2018/09/us-c...e-war-deepens/

    it isn't ez. China especially wants the current situation to continue for it's "Made in China 2025" strategy.
    Trump is facing increasing political pressures as tarriffs begin to bite.

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    keep posting annasshole, great stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I notice you guys never mention the Chinese malign trade barriers/IP theft. why is that? TDS

    trump just lost us a million jobs moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    trump just lost us a million jobs moron
    Due to them stealing technology, ignoring patents, etc, China has cost us many more jobs than that. Pipe down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    MAGA


    Last year, Chinese online sales giant Alibaba said it could create 1 million jobs in the United States over the next five years by building a marketplace where American small businesses could sell to China’s burgeoning middle class.

    Now Alibaba Chairman Jack Ma says with U.S.-China trade becoming increasingly contentious, the promise cannot be fulfilled.

    In an interview Wednesday with Xinhua, the official state-run press agency of the People's Republic of China, Ma said the idea was premised on a friendly U.S.-China partnership and rational trade relations.

    “That premise no longer exists today, so our promise cannot be fulfilled,” he said


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...am/1363326002/
    I'm not at all convinced the authoritarian corporate state wants living wage jobs for all.

    Revisit the Powell Memorandum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Due to them stealing technology, ignoring patents, etc, China has cost us many more jobs than that. Pipe down.
    Bullshit. All our "exceptional" nation can do is claim it ain't fair? American's will swallow anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Bullshit. All our "exceptional" nation can do is claim it ain't fair? American's will swallow anything.
    we are fighting back.
    WTO complaiants go no where. China promises to reform and then does nothing ( typical Chinese pattern)

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    trump just lost us a million jobs moron
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    hes not going to create a million jobs in the US. by his very admission his role is to hook the customers up with the businesses in the US. Its still those businesses that create the jobs not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Due to them stealing technology, ignoring patents, etc, China has cost us many more jobs than that. Pipe down.

    prove it

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