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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    awesome. Trump sees a wall and thinks of a wall,and this gets you upset? why?


    lol.. moved drones back to CIA -do you have any idea of the Obama "kill list?" it was a secret list and it was handled by your hero Brennan. Brennan was so bloodthirsty he and Obama ordered drone attacks on Pakistan where at least 25% of the time had NO IDEA who was being targeted -just that the target had the signature of a terrorist.
    Trump isn't a lot better to be sure, but at least the signature strikes are down,and Pakistanis no loneger complaining.

    Some interesting stuff there -Trump pushing back on fake news is "undermining" press freedom
    Fake news looks pretty healthy to me. what has Trump actually done to curb press freedom?
    Did he search reporterd Emails like Obama did on Rosen?

    Obama added $11 trillion in debt and you are worried about the tax cuts?
    huh? what COLA?
    aw there we go, another pageful of bullshit copy/paste

    nice work slick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    all 4 FISA'a were not released. only the 4th- and that was redacted -the pages no being released are some of those redacted.

    The Nunes memo was accurate, The Schiff memo claimed we didn't see it all, but did not challenge Nunes per se.
    now we get more transparency.
    If not were upto me we'd release them all - but it's not my call. we'll see how fast DOJ gets them out or do their normal slow walking.

    the texts are like a guideline/timeline..The fact that Page was being investigate at all after his prior cooperation to bust Russian spies ( the recorders in the binders) just shows how ridiculous this whole thing was.
    UCE1 description is Carter Page

    "Carter Page is a foreign agent" according to FISA..it's laughable

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...urt-hes-a-spy/
    If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?

    Conclusion: He wasn’t. The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t. The DOJ-NSD and FBI flat-out LIED.
    Carter Page was working for the FBI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Carter Page was working for the FBI?

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...sa-jake-tapper
    Carter Page was an FBI Under-Cover Employee in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016 throughout the case.

    If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?

    Conclusion: He wasn’t. The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t. The DOJ-NSD and FBI flat-out LIED.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...urt-hes-a-spy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    all 4 FISA'a were not released. only the 4th- and that was redacted -the pages no being released are some of those redacted.

    The Nunes memo was accurate, The Schiff memo claimed we didn't see it all, but did not challenge Nunes per se.
    now we get more transparency.
    If not were upto me we'd release them all - but it's not my call. we'll see how fast DOJ gets them out or do their normal slow walking.

    the texts are like a guideline/timeline..The fact that Page was being investigate at all after his prior cooperation to bust Russian spies ( the recorders in the binders) just shows how ridiculous this whole thing was.
    UCE1 description is Carter Page

    "Carter Page is a foreign agent" according to FISA..it's laughable

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...urt-hes-a-spy/
    If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?

    Conclusion: He wasn’t. The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t. The DOJ-NSD and FBI flat-out LIED.
    That is not true, what was released was the FICA application with three additional renewals, together, it all amounts to over four hundred pages, and supposedly less than twenty pages are significant? And you don't think that is deliberate cherry picking? As I noted, their just looking for enough ambiguity to create a narrative

    Nunes was never accurate, the released FISA application showed clearly in over two pages that the Court was told that Steele was likely looking for information to discredit the Trump campaign

    And to deny that Page was under the FBI's radar prior to the dossier is absurd, the guy had questionable relationships dating back years, all of which the FISA application clearly showed. If you were to read the actual application and renewals rather than echoing talking points from conservative websites you'd see the facts right away

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthel.../optimized.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is not true, what was released was the FICA application with three additional renewals, together, it all amounts to over four hundred pages, and supposedly less than twenty pages are significant? And you don't think that is deliberate cherry picking? As I noted, their just looking for enough ambiguity to create a narrative

    Nunes was never accurate, the released FISA application showed clearly in over two pages that the Court was told that Steele was likely looking for information to discredit the Trump campaign

    And to deny that Page was under the FBI's radar prior to the dossier is absurd, the guy had questionable relationships dating back years, all of which the FISA application clearly showed. If you were to read the actual application and renewals rather than echoing talking points from conservative websites you'd see the facts right away

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthel.../optimized.pdf
    Nunes said the footnoting never showed the sourcing was Steele,and he was correct in that it technically did, but only in a convoluted manner designed to obfuscate the fact Steel was paid by Fusion, which was paid by the law firm Hillary used to disguise the fact -claiming it was legal fees. ( small but significant point).

    Schff kept complaining there wasn't enough info by Nunes either, but if you notice Schiff doen't dispute the Nunes memos findings. Thats' a red herring by Schiff -why you want to buy into it, when clearly Nunes got it right is beyond me

    I thought it was just the 4th -I could be wrong- but most of the info was the same anyways, although each new FISA is supposed to be new info.

    The new pages will speak for themselves. The reason Trump will not do a wholesale release is goons like Brennan are already screaming about "compromising nat. security" - which is laughable coming from th head of the cabal.

    We''ll see the new releases soon enough. no use speculating on what they are

    And to deny that Page was under the FBI's radar prior to the dossier is absurd, the guy had questionable relationships dating back years, all of which the FISA application clearly showed. If you were to read the actual application and renewals rather than echoing talking points from conservative websites you'd see the facts right away
    Page said he was constantly de-briefed on his travels by the FBI.
    The FBI had Page employed as a UCE up to May of 2016
    why in the hell did they THEN say he was a foreign agent? that's does not compute

    The real reason Page was hit with the FISA was to cover up the already done spying by the FBI (informants)
    run up on Trump priot to the EC date

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    wtf are you yammering about? are you seriously claiming Trumpj ust thought of the wall at Shanksville? He obviously saw that as inspiration to push more for the wall *shocking*


    Obama promised transparency. But his administration is one of the most secretive
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.1c58e640837f



    Tariffs have NOT caused a 3% inflation -that's ridiculous.
    They are barley getting started -annual inflation IS LESS THEN 3% (2.1) and you want to call that all from tariffs?
    That is the dumbest thing yet.
    I do agree the budget sucks -you can blame your side for not allowing Sequestor to end without MORE domestic SPENDING that the Dems demand in order to rebuild the military from that decimation.
    I'll blame Paul Ryan for being a useless weasel .

    Wages are up 2.9% for the year - not flat.
    Manufacturing jobs are coming back (400k) -Obama said they were gone for good.

    the rest of your economics is laughable " coming recession" lol..although I'm sure you want that.
    you mean the uptick in construction?
    You are so full of shit.
    There is a recession coming by the way, dipshit.
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    "i should have fired him when i won the primaries"

    lol. i love trump.
    is on twitter @realtsuke

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    go suck Alex Jones' dick dumbass
    lib'ruls have become so sensitive since their hopes and dreams were crushed........

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Nunes said the footnoting never showed the sourcing was Steele,and he was correct in that it technically did, but only in a convoluted manner designed to obfuscate the fact Steel was paid by Fusion, which was paid by the law firm Hillary used to disguise the fact -claiming it was legal fees. ( small but significant point).

    Schff kept complaining there wasn't enough info by Nunes either, but if you notice Schiff doen't dispute the Nunes memos findings. Thats' a red herring by Schiff -why you want to buy into it, when clearly Nunes got it right is beyond me

    I thought it was just the 4th -I could be wrong- but most of the info was the same anyways, although each new FISA is supposed to be new info.

    The new pages will speak for themselves. The reason Trump will not do a wholesale release is goons like Brennan are already screaming about "compromising nat. security" - which is laughable coming from th head of the cabal.

    We''ll see the new releases soon enough. no use speculating on what they are

    Page said he was constantly de-briefed on his travels by the FBI.
    The FBI had Page employed as a UCE up to May of 2016
    why in the hell did they THEN say he was a foreign agent? that's does not compute

    The real reason Page was hit with the FISA was to cover up the already done spying by the FBI (informants)
    run up on Trump priot to the EC date
    Don't need the footnote, the FISA application itself points out that the dossier was prepared purposely as information on the Trump campaign

    Can't understand why you fail to see the Nunes memo for what it was, a personal interpretation of documents by Nunes, it wasn't any Committee document, but just Nunes own analysis, and it was full of framed conclusions of which most the actual FISA applications discredited

    So because the FBI used Page at one point that means they didn't find him an individual of concern? Again, you show you have never read the actual FISA application, it is all in there, all the innuendos you are repeating are covered

    When was the last time any President ordered the release of documents that have already been shown to the public without censored form that could directly involve details of an investigation in progress? You know it is absurd when Nunes has already hit the right wing airwaves claiming it should only take a couple of days, meaning, when it takes longer the regurgitation of "they are stalling" innuendo will play again

    Lastly, as I noted, it is the same strategdy, start the accusations, frame a narrative, repeat it in the right wing media, and by the time it is discredited people will believe it is true. Seen it all before in Nunes memo, the IG report, release of the FISA applications, and here again

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Carter Page was an FBI Under-Cover Employee in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016 throughout the case.

    If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?

    Conclusion: He wasn’t. The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t. The DOJ-NSD and FBI flat-out LIED.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...urt-hes-a-spy/
    Naturally your low IQ did not allow you to comprehend the written word. The FBI believed that Page was a Russian agent. Quit being a dumb ass, and read sometime, if you can.

    "We now have a clearer picture of why the FBI was watching former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, after the Justice Department released previously classified documents related to the FBI’s request to conduct surveillance on him. House Republicans had said the FBI abused its power and misled judges in these surveillance applications, but the documents show the FBI had multiple reasons to believe Page was the subject of “targeted recruitment” by Russia in its efforts to undermine the 2016 presidential election and that he had been “collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government"
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