Observation: Overpopulation Is The Root Cause Of Most Of Our Problems On Planet Earth

[Into the Night]

Thank you for that.

The entirety of your argument still seems to me to be religiously motivated.

I ask again, what is your position on the religious continuum?

What is your religion?

Irrelevant question.

[Into the Night]

This is not, as you have suggested, an argument from human nature.

Yes it is. It is human nature to reproduce. It is NOT human nature to kill our own kind for convenience or for meeting some kind of quota.

IT IS A RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT.

No, it isn't. Religion has nothing to do with it. You are confusing the position of some fundamentalist Christians with everyone else. This is a divisional error fallacy. You are doing this to try to build a bulverism fallacy.

I think that is something that has to be dealt with...or we are just going to be going around in circles.

Irrelevant. Religion is not part of this conversation, much as you want to make it such.

[NiftyNiblick]

Destroying that life is killing. There is no other way to put it, no matter how you rationalize it.

I personally don't give a fuck.
No woman should have to carry a pregnancy to term for any reason if she doesn't wish to.

An abortion is like a haircut or a manicure.
You're simply purging unwanted cells from your body, which is anybody's right;

and any Stepford Wife bitch who takes the side of the misogynists on this issue is a total disgrace to her gender.
Imagine what a great nation this would be if all the Trumpanzees had been aborted before they did their part to fuck up America.

[PoliTalker]

I must reiterate.

Life does not begin at conception.

Sperm cells and eggs cells are alive, I tell you.

[Frank Apisa]

Yes it is. It is human nature to reproduce. It is NOT human nature to kill our own kind for convenience or for meeting some kind of quota.

I am a human, Parrot.

It is NOT in my nature to reproduce. In fact, I determined at a very early age I would avoid reproducing no matter what. I personally know several people who feel that way...and can assume there are even more that I do not know who do.

I suspect it is in your nature to do so...and you want, unwarrantedly, to universalize it.

No, it isn't. Religion has nothing to do with it. You are confusing the position of some fundamentalist Christians with everyone else. This is a divisional error fallacy.

Religion has everything to do with what you are saying.

Irrelevant. Religion is not part of this conversation, much as you want to make it such.

It is an inconvenient (for you) part of this conversation...which is the reason you are avoiding it.

When you stop avoiding it, we can continue.

To indulge you by pretending religion is not part of this conversation...is to arbitrarily cede significant parts of the argument to you.

I don't intend to do that.




TO POLI:

This actually is an integral part of the topic of this thread, but I would understand if you want to request that we take this particular elsewhere.

Just say the word...or I'll attempt to continue the discussion here.

[Into the Night]

I personally don't give a fuck.
No woman should have to carry a pregnancy to term for any reason if she doesn't wish to.

An abortion is like a haircut or a manicure.
You're simply purging unwanted cells from your body, which is anybody's right;

and any Stepford Wife bitch who takes the side of the misogynists on this issue is a total disgrace to her gender.
Imagine what a great nation this would be if all the Trumpanzees had been aborted before they did their part to fuck up America.

Redirection fallacy. This thread is not about abortion and whether it's right or not. It's about forcing one to give up their pregnancy for a mother that wants the child to meet a government quota. It's about killing.

[Into the Night]

I must reiterate.

Life does not begin at conception.

Sperm cells and eggs cells are alive, I tell you.

A fertilized cell is neither sperm nor egg. It is life. It will grow into a human being.

[Into the Night]

I am a human, Parrot.

It is NOT in my nature to reproduce. In fact, I determined at a very early age I would avoid reproducing no matter what. I personally know several people who feel that way...and can assume there are even more that I do not know who do.

I am referring to Man as a species, not you or anyone else personally. Divisional error fallacy.

I suspect it is in your nature to do so...and you want, unwarrantedly, to universalize it.

It is quite warranted. I am referring to Man as a species.

Religion has everything to do with what you are saying.

No, it doesn't.

It is an inconvenient (for you) part of this conversation...which is the reason you are avoiding it.

No, it's irrelevant.

When you stop avoiding it, we can continue.

I see no reason to use the requirement of bringing an unrelated subject into the conversation as an argument of the stick fallacy.

To indulge you by pretending religion is not part of this conversation...is to arbitrarily cede significant parts of the argument to you.

Not at all. It's simply irrelevant.

I don't intend to do that.

Obviously. You are trying to build a bulverism fallacy.

[Frank Apisa]

I am referring to Man as a species, not you or anyone else personally. Divisional error fallacy.

It is quite warranted. I am referring to Man as a species.

No, it doesn't.

No, it's irrelevant.

I see no reason to use the requirement of bringing an unrelated subject into the conversation as an argument of the stick fallacy.

Not at all. It's simply irrelevant.

Obviously. You are trying to build a bulverism fallacy.

Much more obviously you are avoiding the religion question because even you realize your stance is a product of your religion.

Hey...no problem. You religious people have been trying this nonsense for a long time...and for the most part, you strike out.

When you decide to answer...do it here. I'll take it from there.

NO RELIGIOUS ARGUMENTS ON THIS ISSUE STAND UP TO SCRUTINY.

[Into the Night]

Much more obviously you are avoiding the religion question because even you realize your stance is a product of your religion.

Hey...no problem. You religious people have been trying this nonsense for a long time...and for the most part, you strike out.

When you decide to answer...do it here. I'll take it from there.

NO RELIGIOUS ARGUMENTS ON THIS ISSUE STAND UP TO SCRUTINY.

Irrelevant. Redirection fallacy in an attempt to build a bulverism fallacy.

[Frank Apisa]

Irrelevant. Redirection fallacy in an attempt to build a bulverism fallacy.

Still avoiding.

No problem. Most of the religious nuts who oppose a woman's right to choose on the question...avoid it.

It falls apart easily.

Makes me wonder why you people want to switch to the "it is human nature" though.

That is even less tenable.