Evidence; Ukrainians downed MH17- not Russians.

[moon]

Serial numbers of missile that downed MH17 show it was produced in 1986, owned by Ukraine - Russia



The serial numbers found on debris of the Buk missile which downed Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine show it was produced in 1986, the Russian military said. The projectile was owned by Ukraine, they added.
There are two serial numbers found on fragments of the missile, which shot down the passenger airliner in June 2014 according to an international team of investigators led by the Netherlands. The numbers were marked on the engine and the nozzle of the missile.

The Russian military on Monday said they had traced them to a missile which had the producer serial number 8868720.

Speaking to journalists, Gen. Nikolay Parshin showed a document trail of the Buk missile. According to the documents, some of which have been declassified for the presentation, it was produced at a military plant in Dolgoprudny in the Moscow region in 1986.
The missile was shipped from the plant on December 29, 1986 and delivered to military unit 20152 located in what is now Ukraine. It is now called 223rd anti-aircraft defense regiment of the Ukrainian armed forces, the report said. The unit took part in Kiev's crackdown on rebels in eastern Ukraine in June 2014, the general said.

The evidence disproves the accusations by Ukraine and some other parties, which claim that a missile fired by a launcher, secretly delivered from Russia, was responsible for the downing of MH17, the Ministry of Defense report said. All the materials have been sent to the Dutch investigators, the Russian military added.

https://www.rt.com/news/438596-mh17-...sian-briefing/

So the evidence shows that ' our ' boys destroyed a civilian airliner- not our intended patsies. Anybody even care that ' we're' terrorists ?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

"The evidence disproves the accusations ..."

And you believe this because the Russian Ministry of Defense SAYS SO?

Please tell me you're not that dumb, moon!

[cancel2 2022]

"The evidence disproves the accusations ..."

And you believe this because the Russian Ministry of Defense SAYS SO?

Please tell me you're not that dumb, moon!

He is though, total arsehole.

[anatta]

The Russian military on Monday said they had traced them to a missile which had the producer serial number 8868720.

Speaking to journalists, Gen. Nikolay Parshin showed a document trail of the Buk missile. According to the documents, some of which have been declassified for the presentation, it was produced at a military plant in Dolgoprudny in the Moscow region in 1986.
The missile was shipped from the plant on December 29, 1986 and delivered to military unit 20152 located in what is now Ukraine. It is now called 223rd anti-aircraft defense regiment of the Ukrainian armed forces, the report said. The unit took part in Kiev's crackdown on rebels in eastern Ukraine in June 2014, the general said.

makes perfect sense. But no we are supposed to beleive a secret launcher was moved in from Russia instead.
And the Russians did it,,,uh huh. sure. except the Russians got the documentation, the west does not

[anatta]

why would Russian Armed Forces move just 1 missile launcher across the border?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

This is what happened, anatta - from the Bear's mouth.


TASS - July 17, 2014

Eyewitnesses claim Donbass militia downed Ukrainian An-26 plane

The mlitia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) have brought down a military transport Antonov-26 (An-26) plane of the Ukrainian Air Force on the outskirts of the town of Torez, eyewitnesses said. A missile hit the An-26, it fell on the ground and caught blaze, they said.

http://tass.ru/en/world/741164


Except they got the wrong plane!

[Cypress]

There are many more legitimate grievances that can be leveled at the proto-fascist, pro-Republican Party, quasi-dictator Vladimir Putin than this.

The preponderance of evidence is that the missile was fired from territory held-by pro-Russian rebels.

It was obviously a tragic mistake, born of negligence and abject incompetence. I see no plausible evidence that anyone intentionally wanted to down a civilian airliner. There would be no military or political incentive for pro-Russian rebels or Russian military units to do it, and there is no credible evidence that the missile came from Ukraine government-held territory.

Its not like the United States can get on a high horse. I seem to remember we shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft back in the 1980s.

[anatta]

This is what happened, anatta - from the Bear's mouth.


TASS - July 17, 2014

Eyewitnesses claim Donbass militia downed Ukrainian An-26 plane

The mlitia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) have brought down a military transport Antonov-26 (An-26) plane of the Ukrainian Air Force on the outskirts of the town of Torez, eyewitnesses said. A missile hit the An-26, it fell on the ground and caught blaze, they said.

http://tass.ru/en/world/741164


Except they got the wrong plane!

what do you mean "wrong plane?".
this is from your link:

Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR)= pro-Russian separatists
Lugansk People’s Republic = same

brought down a military transport Antonov-26 (An-26) plane of the Ukrainian Air Force

^ part of the war in Donbass. "separatists" are fighting Ukraine, and Ukraine militias there

[moon]

"The evidence disproves the accusations ..."

And you believe this because the Russian Ministry of Defense SAYS SO?

Please tell me you're not that dumb, moon!

Wake up. They've handed the evidence to the Dutch investigators.
Let go of your anti-Russian conditioning and follow the facts.

What the fuck do YOU know about it anyway ? Your sources are journalists- just like everybody else's. You sound like a maggot bum-boy.

[Minister of Truth]

Well, so far we have the Russian and the anti-American onboard with the Russian propaganda here.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

what do you mean "wrong plane?"

I mean the Donbass militia used a missile that the Russians had "lent" them (presumably with a crew to operate it) and shot down the airliner MH17 by mistake!

Once they discovered their mistake, it was all hands - and useful idiots - to the disinformation pumps. That's what they've been doing ever since, and the OP is just the latest instalment.

It's so predictable.

[moon]

Well, so far we have the Russian and the anti-American onboard with the Russian propaganda here.

What sort of a conditioned dope calls evidence contrary to his own misconceptions ' propaganda ' ?

We are talking EVIDENCE which has been handed to the investigating body. Pre-empting it is as dumb as your pal maggot accusing Putin of lacing a rural English village with an outmoded nerve agent - still stocked at a nearby Brit nerve agent facility.

[Truth Detector]

So the evidence shows that ' our ' boys destroyed a civilian airliner- not our intended patsies. Anybody even care that ' we're' terrorists ?

LIE and LAME.

An international criminal probe this week concluded that the Malaysia Airlines jet was destroyed by a missile fired from territory controlled by pro-Moscow rebels using a Soviet-era Buk launcher that was trucked in from Russia and hastily returned there.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...milies-n656721

[Truth Detector]

"The evidence disproves the accusations ..."

And you believe this because the Russian Ministry of Defense SAYS SO?

Please tell me you're not that dumb, moon!

Moonbat is that dumb.

[moon]

LIE and LAME.

An international criminal probe this week concluded that the Malaysia Airlines jet was destroyed by a missile fired from territory controlled by pro-Moscow rebels using a Soviet-era Buk launcher that was trucked in from Russia and hastily returned there.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...milies-n656721

Stupid truth-deflecting bum. You post an article from October 2016 to attempt to smother evidence produced today.