MAGA MAN (09-17-2018), Truth Detector (09-17-2018)
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Holy shit, molten salt reactors can use spent fuel, how many times do you have to be told that? Anyway, China, India and Canada will move ahead developing SMR technologies. You're just being a dinosaur Mott, renewables are far too flakey doesn't the disaster of the Energiewende in Germany even cause you to think again? You might also tell me how a reactor buried 30 metres below grade cannot be totally safe. You're blinkered as far as I am concerned, fortunately people like Bill Gates totally disagree with you. Molten Salt technology is not even new, they had a working reactor at Oak Ridge in the 60s. Can you tell me why you are so set against reactors which can be built nearly anywhere, even deserts, far from population centres? Do you actually know what fully passive shutdown means, because you don't seem to understand the concept at all? You're like a first world war general attempting to use cavalry in WW2.
Last edited by cancel2 2022; 09-17-2018 at 12:13 PM.
MAGA MAN (09-17-2018), Truth Detector (09-17-2018)
I'll ask you some questions Mott, but I doubt you'll answer. Do you think a company with the prestige of Rolls Royce would be involved with unsafe technology? They have been building SMR reactors for submarines for many decades. Ever heard of one blowing up?
https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovati....aspx#overview
MAGA MAN (09-17-2018), Truth Detector (09-17-2018)
Moot's not man enough to admit that he's wrong. Never has been.
Truth Detector (09-17-2018)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
I can see a strong argument for nuclear, but there's also an argument against it. Even if it's irrational, there's huge opposition to building nuclear plants. So, as a practical matter, it's not at all clear that California or Germany could have scaled up nuclear the way they have solar, even if the leaders had been pushing hard in that direction. You can add a bunch of new solar generation practically overnight, whereas with nuclear you get caught in permitting hell for years or even decades. And then the safety requirements wind up so onerous that the actual cost per unit of energy winds up much higher than solar. That can be faulted as overkill, but it's the reality of the political landscape. So, it becomes a choice between adding a whole lot of solar generation quickly, here in the real world, and only adding a pittance of nuclear energy in the same time, as you try to clear one hurdle after another.
cancel2 2022 (09-17-2018)
You may find this interesting, Jack
" ... Many of these plants, though, will likely keep operating, thanks to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s practice of granting new licenses to plants that have outlived their original operating licenses. Most of the 100 nuclear plants now generating power in the U.S. were originally licensed for 35 to 40 years of operation; now the NRC is issuing new permits, in 20-year increments, that will allow them to keep running for 60 or even 80 years. Eighty reactors (many plants comprise more than one reactor) have already had their licenses renewed, and many of the remaining ones are likely to come up for renewal in the next decade.
Operating aging nuclear plants far beyond their original design lifetimes raises the specter of system failures, leaks, and accidents. Environmental groups, for example, have opposed a license extension for the Davis-Besse station, a nuclear plant operated by utility FirstEnergy in northern Ohio, because of extensive cracking in the exterior of the plant’s containment building. FirstEnergy “should retire Davis-Besse as planned,” Pat Marida of the Ohio Sierra Club’s Nuclear-Free Committee told reporters in September, “on Earth Day, 2017, rather than continuing to play radioactive Russian roulette on the Lake Erie shore for 20 more years.”
Last year the commissioners rejected a recommendation from their own technical staff that the existing rules for relicensing should be revised to reflect increased concerns around going from 60 years to 80. The ruling cleared the way for companies to apply for a second renewal of operating licenses under the existing regulatory scheme. ... "
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/5...clear-reactor/
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Jack (09-17-2018)
Germany:
https://www.sciencealert.com/germany...days-christmas
https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a8022576.html
http://fortune.com/2016/05/11/germany-excess-power/
California:
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-07-...tate-producing
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-f...tricity-solar/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-now-just-wait
Fukishima and Chernobyl
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Glob...uclear-experts
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fukushi...ter-1457482830
https://www.psr.org/wp-content/uploa...ushima-and.pdf
https://www.livescience.com/39961-chernobyl.html
“I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.” - Henry David Thoreau
cancel2 2022 (09-17-2018)
Thanks, Bigdog.
"... because of extensive cracking in the exterior of the plant’s containment building."
Hmmmm, ... may have to rename the 'Containment building'.
I wonder how the Plant Workers feel? I know they all wear Badges that detect radiation, but I wonder what the cumulitive effect is?
Bigdog (09-17-2018)
Good lord; you can't be this stupid. Germany's energy nedds aren't being met by clean energy. They try to get rid of it when energy demands go down because there is no way to STORE the energy being created by these so-called "green" plants. It isn't because they produce too much. Dolt.
Most of Germany's energy needs are met by importing it, coal which is the largest source and nuclear.
Same with California you idiot. The notion that wind and solar can provide the hundreds of thousands of megawatts necessary to power Germany and California are laughably stupid.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
cancel2 2022 (09-17-2018)
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