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Thread: Does everyone know that Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if TRUMP IS GUILTY?

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    Default Does everyone know that Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if TRUMP IS GUILTY?

    I wonder if most people realize this. Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if Trump or Jared, Guiliani, Sessions, et. al. knew about ANY collusion from his campaign with any Russian? Should he, it's instant grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I wonder if most people realize this. Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if Trump or Jared, Guiliani, Sessions, et. al. knew about ANY collusion from his campaign with any Russian? Should he, it's instant grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
    Flunked fifth grade civics, eh?
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Flunked fifth grade civics, eh?
    Care to explain why I'm wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Care to explain why I'm wrong?
    What good would it do? You obviously lack the gray matter necessary to understand much of anything given the lunacy you post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Care to explain why I'm wrong?
    None needed, you are never right.
    Every life matters

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    "grounds for IMPEACHMENT." Cl #1
    I've not seen any indication our Republican-lead congress has any spine for impeaching President Trump, regardless of how deserving.

    Whether a post election power shift would alter that is yet to be seen.

    When President Clinton (D-AR) was impeached, C.J. Rehnquist (R) presided. This imparted an intrinsic partisan antagonism to these adversarial roles in such impeachment.

    If President Trump (R-NY) were impeached, would C.J. Roberts (R) preside? Can you say the fox is in charge of the fox coop.
    "The chair wishes to make a brief statement without objection I trust." William Rehnquist: Chief Justice of the United States, and when so quoted on February 12, 1999, chairman presiding over the Congressional impeachment trial of President W.J.Clinton
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Flunked fifth grade civics, eh?
    Care to explain why I'm wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What good would it do? You obviously lack the gray matter necessary to understand much of anything given the lunacy you post here.
    I'm not a lawyer but if the Watergate lawyers and many federal prosecutors say he can't, I'm not full of shit, perhaps you are!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    None needed, you are never right.
    Take it up these SOURCES. I'm not one! Aside from the OBVIOUS ones which include he can't pardon Manafort for STATE crimes.

    https://www-vox-com.cdn.ampproject.o...p-pardon-power
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I wonder if most people realize this. Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if Trump or Jared, Guiliani, Sessions, et. al. knew about ANY collusion from his campaign with any Russian? Should he, it's instant grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
    I wonder how many people know how many war criminals we have walking around recycling back into punditry and cabinet positions to push for more bogus expansionist militarism to attempt to prop up the failed economic system of the declining empire. Or that we have a dominatrix torturess heading up the CIA. The power structure does not answer to "the law" or to the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I wonder if most people realize this. Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if Trump or Jared, Guiliani, Sessions, et. al. knew about ANY collusion from his campaign with any Russian? Should he, it's instant grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
    I read the Vox article. Most of the lawyers did not make it sound like it was that clear. How would they prove the "knew" about any collusion? Nothing is instant grounds for impeachment unless a majority of the House votes to impeach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I wonder if most people realize this. Trump CAN'T pardon Manafort if Trump or Jared, Guiliani, Sessions, et. al. knew about ANY collusion from his campaign with any Russian? Should he, it's instant grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
    Yes he can and impeachment is whatever the house says is good enough of a reason. The only check is the Senate that decides whether or not to remove or even have a trial to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I read the Vox article. Most of the lawyers did not make it sound like it was that clear. How would they prove the "knew" about any collusion? Nothing is instant grounds for impeachment unless a majority of the House votes to impeach.
    Grounds


    TAPES can prove it

    the FBI was taping Flynn as trumpy called and called him to talk to him about not flipping

    Trumpy has been taped for his involvement in these crimes from day one

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Grounds


    TAPES can prove it

    the FBI was taping Flynn as trumpy called and called him to talk to him about not flipping

    Trumpy has been taped for his involvement in these crimes from day one
    Tapes/vids have no effect upon the power of the state to murder unarmed black folk in the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What good would it do? You obviously lack the gray matter necessary to understand much of anything given the lunacy you post here.
    Projecting much?
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