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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Conspiracy theories are like scientific ones, unproven until they are. Guys like my brother in law don't bother to look for proof when they believe what they want, he still thinks the moon landing didn't happen. Sciece people keep looking for proof.
    But scientism is a religion as flawed as all the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    Conspiracy theories are like scientific ones, unproven until they are.
    The crucial difference is that scientific theories are open to DISPROOF. The more open to disproof they are, the better they are, provided they survive the test.

    Conspiracy theories, otoh, typically are closed systems incapable of being disproved to the satisfaction of believers. If evidence is found contradicting the theory, well, it must have been planted by "them" - the conspirators - to mislead the sheeple. But true believers aren't fooled by that, lol.

    That's how it works.

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    I'm sorry fine sirs, but conspiracies of powerful people controlling the world are factual.

    Central banks create money out of thin air, and enslave the entire world population as collateral. Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    But scientism is a religion as flawed as all the others.
    Not sure what in hell "scientism" is, but if it is "science"...then my response to this is:

    All religions may be flawed...

    ...but science...is not a religion.

    If "scientism" is a name given to some fringe religion...then: Who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Not sure what in hell "scientism" is, but if it is "science"...then my response to this is:

    All religions may be flawed...

    ...but science...is not a religion.

    If "scientism" is a name given to some fringe religion...then: Who cares?
    It's an appeal to authority based on a person being designated as a scientist. Scientists can also be corrupted to lie, just like any other person, and they have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Not sure what in hell "scientism" is, but if it is "science"...then my response to this is:

    All religions may be flawed...

    ...but science...is not a religion.

    If "scientism" is a name given to some fringe religion...then: Who cares?
    It's an appeal to authority based on a person being designated as a scientist. Scientists can also be corrupted to lie, just like any other person, and they have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    It's an appeal to authority based on a person being designated as a scientist. Scientists can also be corrupted to lie, just like any other person, and they have been.
    That does not make science a "religion"...which is what you asserted.

    Get your shit in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    That does not make science a "religion"...which is what you asserted.

    Get your shit in order.
    It's scientism, The religious worship of scientists and their utterances, devoid of personal reasoning and in spite of possible corruption or wrongness of scientists themselves.

    Logically it's the logical fallacy of appealing to authority, like the infallibility of the pope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    It's scientism, The religious worship of scientists and their utterances...
    C'mon, Ass...get real.

    If you know of people who engage in "the religious worship of scientists and their utterances"...bring them forth for questioning.

    I know of no such people.


    , devoid of personal reasoning and in spite of possible corruption or wrongness of scientists themselves.
    Bring forth the people who claim scientists cannot be corrupted...or wrong.

    You sound to me as though you have a hard-on for scientists...and are indulging it with absurd statements about how people feel about science.


    Logically it's the logical fallacy of appealing to authority, like the infallibility of the pope.
    If you have an argument with the pope...take it up with him.

    If you have an argument with science...let's discuss it.

    "Science" is the reason we can send a package from Earth to Saturn to take a picture of a particular spot on one of its moons.

    Jesus H. Christ...that is pretty damned impressive compared with the "prayer can move mountains" bullshit that sees NO MOUNTAINS EVER BEING MOVED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    C'mon, Ass...get real.

    If you know of people who engage in "the religious worship of scientists and their utterances"...bring them forth for questioning.

    I know of no such people.




    Bring forth the people who claim scientists cannot be corrupted...or wrong.

    You sound to me as though you have a hard-on for scientists...and are indulging it with absurd statements about how people feel about science.



    If you have an argument with the pope...take it up with him.

    If you have an argument with science...let's discuss it.

    "Science" is the reason we can send a package from Earth to Saturn to take a picture of a particular spot on one of its moons.

    Jesus H. Christ...that is pretty damned impressive compared with the "prayer can move mountains" bullshit that sees NO MOUNTAINS EVER BEING MOVED.
    Man made global warming idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Man made global warming idiots
    Jesus H. Christ, Ass.

    Can you occasionally post something that makes sense. Just so we know you can actually do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Jesus H. Christ, Ass.

    Can you occasionally post something that makes sense. Just so we know you can actually do it.
    Science is not based on polling favored scientists, and discounting minority voices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Science is not based on polling favored scientists, and discounting minority voices.
    The Earth is located, on average, approximately 93,000,000 from the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Not sure what in hell "scientism" is, but if it is "science"...then my response to this is:

    All religions may be flawed...

    ...but science...is not a religion.

    If "scientism" is a name given to some fringe religion...then: Who cares?
    Like Scientology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    It's an appeal to authority based on a person being designated as a scientist. Scientists can also be corrupted to lie, just like any other person, and they have been.
    Nope. "Science" is a discipline open to study and understanding by anyone. Religion requires a belief in a deity or some unseen and unprovable higher power whether or not it includes priests. If you have taken any science classes you should be able to read typical science journal documents and discern for yourself whether or not the data and conclusions presented are accurate. Keep in mind also that when a scientist presents new findings and conclusions, that his/her work is subject to testing and validation by other scientists in that field.

    You can't say the same about a claim about a god and/or a religious belief.

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