The Good Old Days Of America's Healthcare System, Bring It Back

[Robo]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.

I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

[CFM]

The entitlement mentality of the 60's is when the concept of the government owes me something began. When people started believing it was the government's place to feed, house, and clothe them, the next step in the progression was to believe healthcare is somehow a right. People that think it's the taxpayer's place to provide healthcare and that healthcare is a right are saying that the level of rights someone can exercise is based on how low the level of income is.

There used to be what was referred to as major medical coverage. It was cheap, readily available, and used for, as the name indicates, major medical. People went to the doctor and paid for the care they received. If something catastrophic happened, the major medical kicked in. For the poor and those of meager means, there were things available to help.

[archives]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.

I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

I remember when a phone call cost ten cents and party lines existed, should we return to those days? What was the average life expectancy of the 1950's compared to today?

Health care wasn't even close to being as efficient, and more so, widespread, than it is today. What you are falling prey to is pure nostalgia, fortunately, life moves on

[Boris The Animal]

I remember when a phone call cost ten cents and party lines existed, should we return to those days? What was the average life expectancy of the 1950's compared to today?

Health care wasn't even close to being as efficient, and more so, widespread, than it is today. What you are falling prey to is pure nostalgia, fortunately, life moves on

But it doesn't mean we have to use big government cookie cutter approaches either.

[NiftyNiblick]

Medicare for all is the tip of the iceberg.

It's only a matter of time before we have complete deprivatization and a National Health Service just like the UKs.

America is an embarrassingly socially regressive country, so we're late to the table with just about all social advancements.

But it's only a matter of time.

All healthcare from pre-natal care to nursing homes and hospices will be 100% tax supported...just as it obviously should be.

[evince]

these idiots actually think we can go back a the town dr.

the guy who new ever patient in the town

knew their family health history and what they died of


When people died of the same thing their parents did

then the Dr would write on their death certificate that they died of old age at the same age their parents did

at 58

[CFM]

All healthcare from pre-natal care to nursing homes and hospices will be 100% tax supported...just as it obviously should be.

For the freeloaders having children they can't afford to old timers thinking the government owes them something, it already is. The sad part is the ones getting it for nothing aren't paying the taxes that fund it.

[CFM]

these idiots actually think we can go back a the town dr.

the guy who new ever patient in the town

knew their family health history and what they died of


When people died of the same thing their parents did

then the Dr would write on their death certificate that they died of old age at the same age their parents did

at 58

As long as you die a horrible, agonizing, painful death, I don't care what causes it.

[anonymoose]

Moosecare.

Everybody pays into healthcare. It can be a tax deductible HSA, or taxes but everybody pays into it much like SS. Those that choose to pay into an HSA must use the funds from that for their health care. All medical fees will be made available before a procedure is performed. That way a patient can choose how best to use his funds like any other consumer. Those that choose to pay a tax for their health care go to a doc who accepts pre-set gubmint fees same as Medicaide or go to a gubmint emloyed salaried doc much like a VA doc.
Anyone who utilizes hlth care after they've used up their HSA must pay into the taxable medical fund.
This is a system that should satisfy everyone form free market advocates (like me) to socialists (those that would use the salaried docs).
The key to its success is that everybody is required to pay into it. It would not be cheap, but it would be fair. I'd call it the Fairness in Care Act and ditch the Unaffordable Care Act.
There's a lot more to this so if you have any questions pls ask.

[evince]

As long as you die a horrible, agonizing, painful death, I don't care what causes it.

yes I know you are a sociopathic ass drip


its a well known fact

[CFM]

yes I know you are a sociopathic ass drip


its a well known fact

The only thing you know is you want someone to grab your pussy. I've told you I'm not interested. Quit asking.

[Robo]

The entitlement mentality of the 60's is when the concept of the government owes me something began. When people started believing it was the government's place to feed, house, and clothe them, the next step in the progression was to believe healthcare is somehow a right. People that think it's the taxpayer's place to provide healthcare and that healthcare is a right are saying that the level of rights someone can exercise is based on how low the level of income is.

There used to be what was referred to as major medical coverage. It was cheap, readily available, and used for, as the name indicates, major medical. People went to the doctor and paid for the care they received. If something catastrophic happened, the major medical kicked in. For the poor and those of meager means, there were things available to help.

I think you put your finger on the major issue concerning government provided healthcare. Whenever "the people" get the idea that all they have to do is go to a doctor for pretty much anything, a cold a hang nail, a boil or whatever, and the government will take care of the bill, first thing you know, doctors offices are swamped, they have to hire more help to take care of the government paperwork and then everybody ends up WAITING longer and longer for care. That's what you get with single payer. That's why the VA can't handle it's commitments.

[Robo]

I remember when a phone call cost ten cents and party lines existed, should we return to those days? What was the average life expectancy of the 1950's compared to today?

Health care wasn't even close to being as efficient, and more so, widespread, than it is today. What you are falling prey to is pure nostalgia, fortunately, life moves on

The only thing you've said here relevant to the OP is the fact that inflation and medical science has advanced. Why in your opinion would that make the "delivery system" of yesteryear unworkable today?

[Robo]

The only thing you know is you want someone to grab your pussy. I've told you I'm not interested. Quit asking.

I use to respond to her too. It's perfectly evident to me now that it isn't worth encouraging her, she's totally brain-dead.

[CFM]

I think you put your finger on the major issue concerning government provided healthcare. Whenever "the people" get the idea that all they have to do is go to a doctor for pretty much anything, a cold a hang nail, a boil or whatever, and the government will take care of the bill, first thing you know, doctors offices are swamped, they have to hire more help to take care of the government paperwork and then everybody ends up WAITING longer and longer for care. That's what you get with single payer. That's why the VA can't handle it's commitments.

Just as my parents did, I take care of the things that can be taken care of at home at home.

If people can go to the doctor every time they have a headache because, under single payer they don't have to pay anything, why would anyone believe the hypochondriacs wouldn't be there at the drop of a hat?

What's worse is the government would set the amount which a doctor could receive for various things.