The Good Old Days Of America's Healthcare System, Bring It Back

[Althea]

I remember when a phone call cost ten cents and party lines existed, should we return to those days? What was the average life expectancy of the 1950's compared to today?

Health care wasn't even close to being as efficient, and more so, widespread, than it is today. What you are falling prey to is pure nostalgia, fortunately, life moves on

And profit based systems, vs. 'the old days'.

Pharma prices are through the roof.

[Grugore]

Medicare for all is the tip of the iceberg.

It's only a matter of time before we have complete deprivatization and a National Health Service just like the UKs.

America is an embarrassingly socially regressive country, so we're late to the table with just about all social advancements.

But it's only a matter of time.

All healthcare from pre-natal care to nursing homes and hospices will be 100% tax supported...just as it obviously should be.

If the government controls your healthcare, they control you. Think about that.

[katzgar]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.

I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

the average lifespan was 65 you moron.

[archives]

If the government controls your healthcare, they control you. Think about that.

They do? How so?

Government controls the roads I drive on, but that doesn't stop me from where I want to go, how I want to go, or if I even have to go at all

[Mason Michaels]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.

I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

You're a moron,stuck in the 50's

[evince]

I think you put your finger on the major issue concerning government provided healthcare. Whenever "the people" get the idea that all they have to do is go to a doctor for pretty much anything, a cold a hang nail, a boil or whatever, and the government will take care of the bill, first thing you know, doctors offices are swamped, they have to hire more help to take care of the government paperwork and then everybody ends up WAITING longer and longer for care. That's what you get with single payer. That's why the VA can't handle it's commitments.

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that doesn't seem to be a problem at all the other western nations who have universal healthcare

[Irish Exit]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.

I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

The good old days when people with cancer were sent home with opium to die? The good old days where people just dropped dead of a heart attack or stroke and that was that? Extending life expectancy and all the high tech crap we have costs money.

[Nordberg]

The good old days when people with cancer were sent home with opium to die? The good old days where people just dropped dead of a heart attack or stroke and that was that? Extending life expectancy and all the high tech crap we have costs money.

our system is at the bottom of industrial nations. that is because a huge part of our health care money goes to profits and execs. healthcare should not be a for-profit enterprise. that guarantees that a huge part of our care cost goes to proifits and funnels up to the wealthy.

[Loving91390]

I use to respond to her too. It's perfectly evident to me now that it isn't worth encouraging her, she's totally brain-dead.

Evince is a ..... She ?

[signalmankenneth]

America’s healthcare during my boyhood and early adulthood, (late 30's, 40's and early 50's) was never a political issue. It’s documented that Harry Truman once tried to introduce a federal government healthcare plan and I think he was laughed out of the Oval Office. I don’t remember healthcare being an issue until the feds got involved with Medicare in like the 60's sometime I think. From my experience America’s healthcare has been going downhill ever since. Seems the more the feds mess with it the more costly and more people , not fewer people can’t get healthcare except by emergency room care.



I remember when doctors and hospitals had low cost and no cost clinics the doctors donated time to and the hospitals donated facilities and equipment and private charities donated money and other services to the poor and folks of meager means.

I remember when almost every employer could easily afford health insurance for their employees and plans where whole families could go to the doctor and or the hospitals and pay next to nothing for care. Most plans even offered dental and visual coverage.

I think America should get the feds out of the healthcare and health insurance business and encourage the people and the states to go back to the good old days in American healthcare.

[Irish Exit]

our system is at the bottom of industrial nations. that is because a huge part of our health care money goes to profits and execs. healthcare should not be a for-profit enterprise. that guarantees that a huge part of our care cost goes to proifits and funnels up to the wealthy.

Our system is at the bottom because the studies put heavy weight on cost to consumers. Start a non-profit healthcare system if you want. See how many people use it and what kind of care they get. First, however, your non-profit system needs to come up with about $30T to buy out the owners of all the hospitals, nursing homes, etc, and find doctors willing to work for RN pay and surgeons willing to slice and dice for CRNP wages. You cannot overlay a nonprofit system on a for-profit system and have a system in the end.

[Nordberg]

But it doesn't mean we have to use big government cookie cutter approaches either.

of course, we do. It is a huge program.

[Leonthecat]

I remember the good ole days of polio.
Don't cha miss it?

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[Nordberg]

Our system is at the bottom because the studies put heavy weight on cost to consumers. Start a non-profit healthcare system if you want. See how many people use it and what kind of care they get. First, however, your non-profit system needs to come up with about $30T to buy out the owners of all the hospitals, nursing homes, etc, and find doctors willing to work for RN pay and surgeons willing to slice and dice for CRNP wages. You cannot overlay a nonprofit system on a for-profit system and have a system in the end.

Not correct. they evaluate on life expectancy and health results of sick people. Money is not a factor. https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...able-countries and rated 11th out of 11 industrial countries. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pre...-access-equity

[Irish Exit]

Not correct. they evaluate on life expectancy and health results of sick people. Money is not a factor. https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...able-countries and rated 11th out of 11 industrial countries. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pre...-access-equity

LOL. In the very first sentence they state "access to services" as part of the metric. Access to services is measured in cost to consumers. And how do they measure that, well let's go to your other source: "Access to care: People in the U.S. have the hardest time affording the health care they need. The U.S. ranks last on every measure of cost-related access. More than one-third (37%) of U.S. adults reported forgoing a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up care because of cost.