Liberals claim that if abortions are made illegal women will continue to have abortions.
They also claim that if guns are outlawed we will all be safe.
I just don't get it.
evince (09-12-2018)
We don't want guns outlawed, you brain fart incarnate. Suck it up, grow the fuck up, and quit deciding what is real, based on bias, fear, and manipulation. These actions make toddlers seem calm, and reasoned.
evince (09-12-2018), Frank Apisa (09-12-2018)
Hello Grugore,
Well, first of all, abortions are not going to be made illegal.
Even if Roe is overturned abortion will still be legal. It will then be up to each State.
If people don't get back alley abortions they will simply travel to a State where they can exercise their freedom of choice to decide what happens with their own body.
The second claim is absurd. Liberals claim no such thing.
It should also be noted that owning a gun does not necessarily make you 'safe' either. You could be victimized when you don't have it handy, caught off guard, or be so nervous without proper and regular training to be a killer, that you choke up under pressure, unable to hit a target, or fumbling too much to load.
You can hedge your bets, have the gun just in case, but you might end up being another statistic. Guns in the home are more likely to be used in an accident than for self-defense. Most people live a perfectly good life without ever needing a gun, whether they own one or not.
But it is good to have the 2nd amendment and some gun rights. That way, strangers never know if you are armed or not. The knowledge that you COULD be is as effective a deterrent as really having one.
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Truth Detector (09-12-2018)
Whats a fact? Be specific. I assume you're referring to illegal abortions. If so, you are correct. But what historical data do you feel supports the second claim? Btw, how many gun deaths occurred in Chicago the last few days? I hear they have some really tough gun control laws. Why are they not safe? Why are people being gunned down on a daily basis?
Truth Detector (09-12-2018)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion
The practice of abortion—the termination of a pregnancy—has been known since ancient times. Various methods have been used to perform or attempt an abortion, including the administration of abortifacient herbs, the use of sharpened implements, the application of abdominal pressure, and other techniques.
Like 39 percent of democrats.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.was...-percent-demo/
Truth Detector (09-12-2018)
Your generalizing what you think is "liberal" arguments
People aren't advocating getting rid of the Second Amendment, rather controlling access to what is too many guns out there. No right is absolute, gun rights can be regulated
If you just have a gun on your property your chances of being a victim of a gun increases dramatically. The probability of you get shot by a complete stranger compared to getting shot by someone you know is minimal at best. Just having a gun in the vicinity escalates violent situations
And though you hear it often, no way to deny it, if more guns is suppose to make us safer the US, which has nearly as many guns as people, should currently be one of the safest nations in the world, which it isn't even close to being
The irony is that it wasn't about abortion being illegal, it was just not supposed to be a Supreme law of the land.
They make a lot of very false claims. But that is because their ideology is based on lies and therefore, in their desperation to defend, are compelled to lie.
Perhaps this will help you understand the liberal thought process:
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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