campaign to undermine Trump from within the government through illegal leaks

[Oneuli]

it's not about simple leaking. It's the conspiracy within the FBI and DoJ ( Ohr at least - but Ohr reported to Rosenstein) that is the egregious coup.

One of the things that impare him is the false attachment to Russian collusion - the SC is Comey's doing
but the players are everybody from Brennan to Clapper to Strzok/Page etc.

Try launching a presidency like that. It's never been done to anyone else, and the Deep State creeps who did this
knew it would succeed. Whatever your feelings toward Trump you should recognize this assault on our democracy,

Nevermind the Russian trolls. The Deep State are the traitors

I don't see any evidence of a coup -- just evidence that he inspires very little loyalty, and so there's more internal friction within the executive branch than one see when the presidency is filled by a better man. He's so widely hated that even when he's got a lifelong member of his own party, like Rosenstein or Comey, he can't be really sure they'll go to bat for him. Some of that, as you know, is about the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russians. Old school Republicans came up in a world where the Russians were the bad guys and that kind of complicity was unthinkable. But for others, it's just a matter of having trouble following a guy they know to be an imbecile, a racist, an egomaniac, and a pathological liar.

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another one who refuses to comment on the now known conspirators /
I find it amazing the lengths Dems will go to to protect a corrupt FBI and IC leadership.
I suppose it's another facet of TDS

They have all been "the now known conspiracies," ten years of "now known conspiracies," a decade ago Obama being born in Kenya was a "now known conspiracy."

As I noted, a decade of umpteen conspiracies, and none of them ever even close to be proven valid, right wing conspiracies have reached marginal utility, no one other than conservatives pay attention to the inneundos, track record predicates zero credibility

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REP. DEVIN NUNES: The big felony in all of this that nobody talks about from the very beginning was the leak of highly classified information when they leaked the phone call of the Russian ambassador talking to General Mike Flynn right before the inauguration. That was a felony, nothing’s ever been done about it.

Now there's a credible source, twilight Ubers to the White House Nunes, who even described his major purpose in Washington was to defend to Trump, as I said a decade of conspiracies based upon inneundos perpetuated from the likes of this source

[dukkha]

I don't see any evidence of a coup -- just evidence that he inspires very little loyalty, and so there's more internal friction within the executive branch than one see when the presidency is filled by a better man. He's so widely hated that even when he's got a lifelong member of his own party, like Rosenstein or Comey, he can't be really sure they'll go to bat for him. Some of that, as you know, is about the Trump campaign's collusion with the Russians. Old school Republicans came up in a world where the Russians were the bad guys and that kind of complicity was unthinkable. But for others, it's just a matter of having trouble following a guy they know to be an imbecile, a racist, an egomaniac, and a pathological liar.

what Trump campaign collusion with Russians?

It's virtually impossible for me to go back and detail all of this -why books are being written in the absence of MS press coverage it's a very complicated conspiracy with many incestuous/dual roles played by a relatively small amount of corrupt IC leadership.

You can address the new texts, or the insurance policy, or how the phony FISA was cobbled together using Steele as virtually the only source masqueraded by circular souring, such as the Yahoo news article by michael isikoff for ex.

[dukkha]

Now there's a credible source, twilight Ubers to the White House Nunes, who even described his major purpose in Washington was to defend to Trump, as I said a decade of conspiracies based upon inneundos perpetuated from the likes of this source

leaking the Flynn phone call was leaking classified info.
try this:

BRIT HUME: What looks like what happened here, Tucker, is that they were eavesdropping on the Russian ambassador and they pick up his conversation or his conversations with Mike Flynn.

They now are in possession through classified information of very sensitive information on two counts. One is that the information itself is classified and having it get out might compromise sources and methods.

And the second is that they have information that they probably shouldn't have or should be very careful with about the private conversations of United States citizen. So that information is doubly deserving of the kind of protections that intelligence agencies are used to providing and it leaked out.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ed_leaked.html

[Getin the ring]

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep.

listen you little puke,

the fact that none of you nut-bags care to have a conversation about known conspiracy, instead want to talk hypotheticals is all I need to sleep quite well that I am on the right side of this.
And America has spoken, quite loudly, In case you havn't noticed the sane rule the house, the Senate and the White House.

How much more of a beatdown do you want?
seriously dumb-ass, you have not got a clue, you are whining like a triggered nut-bag day after day after day

[Oneuli]

what Trump campaign collusion with Russians?

Just to take the most famous example, there was the time that the president's campaign head, his son, and his son-in-law all agreed to meet with people they knew to be acting as agents of the Kremlin, for the express purpose of getting valuable information to use in the campaign.

You can address the new texts, or the insurance policy, or how the phony FISA was cobbled together using Steele as virtually the only source masqueraded by circular souring, such as the Yahoo news article by michael isikoff for ex.

Trump's Republican apologists have claimed that the FISA warrant had the Steele investigation as virtually it's only source. They have not, however, substantiated that claim. They released some cherry-picked classified information to try to argue that, but then blocked the Democrats from releasing the stuff they didn't want the public to know. So you and I are in the exact same position of not having any idea how much information there was, and from how many different sources, to back up the FISA warrant. All we know is that an independent court looked at it and concluded that it was enough to say there was probable cause to believe the target is an “agent of a foreign power” who is “knowingly engag[ing]…in clandestine intelligence activities.” The court considered all the information and decided they'd seen enough to think he was probably a spy.

[Leonthecat]

The current campaign to undermine Trump, comes from within the white house.
Thankfully someone who cares and has the power to do so, is saving us from this Fake President.

[Jarod]

listen you little puke,

the fact that none of you nut-bags care to have a conversation about known conspiracy, instead want to talk hypotheticals is all I need to sleep quite well that I am on the right side of this.
And America has spoken, quite loudly, In case you havn't noticed the sane rule the house, the Senate and the White House.

How much more of a beatdown do you want?
seriously dumb-ass, you have not got a clue, you are whining like a triggered nut-bag day after day after day

You mad bro?

[Jarod]

REP. DEVIN NUNES: The big felony in all of this that nobody talks about from the very beginning was the leak of highly classified information when they leaked the phone call of the Russian ambassador talking to General Mike Flynn right before the inauguration. That was a felony, nothing’s ever been done about it.

Nunes says so, does not make it true!

[dukkha]

Just to take the most famous example, there was the time that the president's campaign head, his son, and his son-in-law all agreed to meet with people they knew to be acting as agents of the Kremlin, for the express purpose of getting valuable information to use in the campaign.

that is not collusion.
it was a meeting for opposition research . it was even walked out on. Collusion legally means to conspire with another party towards a corrupt goal. There was no conspiracy towards any goal

Trump's Republican apologists have claimed that the FISA warrant had the Steele investigation as virtually it's only source. They have not, however, substantiated that claim. They released some cherry-picked classified information to try to argue that, but then blocked the Democrats from releasing the stuff they didn't want the public to know. So you and I are in the exact same position of not having any idea how much information there was, and from how many different sources, to back up the FISA warrant. All we know is that an independent court looked at it and concluded that it was enough to say there was probable cause to believe the target is an “agent of a foreign power” who is “knowingly engag[ing]…in clandestine intelligence activities.” The court considered all the information and decided they'd seen enough to think he was probably a spy.

the court was hoodwinked.
The Steele dossier made up the bulk of the ap. It was a gross violation of Woods procedure by FBI /Doj signatories
Nobody prevented the Dems from releasing anything, except DoJ classification. That isn't "Republicans"

[Oneuli]

that is not collusion.

What do you think "collusion" means? Generally, it's regarded as secret or illegal cooperation. It was secret at the time -- in fact, the Russians went out of their way to work through a series of intermediaries to make it that way. It was illegal, too, since the campaign finance laws forbid getting anything of value from a foreign government. And it was cooperation. So, it's pretty clearly collusion. I know that's painful for right-wingers to hear, after having been programmed so tirelessly by Trump to say there was no collusion. But by any plain meaning of the word, it was collusion.

Collusion legally means to conspire with another party towards a corrupt goal

The three top members of the Trump administration conspired with agents of the Kremlin with the goal of providing valuable information from the Russian government to the campaign, in contravention of laws prohibiting foreigner from providing things of value to campaigns. That's obviously corrupt. So, by your own definition, it was clear collusion.

the court was hoodwinked.

Yes, I know that's what Trump's apologists are insisting on, and what Fox News has been claiming. But what evidence is there of that? Keep in mind, much of the information they relied on for the warrant remains classified and hasn't been shared with the public.

The Steele dossier made up the bulk of the ap

What makes you think that?

Nobody prevented the Dems from releasing anything, except DoJ classification. That isn't "Republicans"

The Republicans prevented it. As you know, the whole thing was classified, and then the Republicans used their power to declassify only the bits they thought scored political points for them, while preventing the Democrats from doing the same. They figured there were a lot of really stupid Americans who would see a cherry-picked set of documents and just assume that whatever bits the Republicans found strategically useful to declassify must give a good picture of the whole. And that was right -- there really were a lot of stupid Americans. But the rest of us are waiting to see the whole thing, or some other backing for their claims.

[Leonthecat]

You mad bro?

GTR is having a bad week.
His orange idol is falling apart at the seams.

[iewitness]

This is that which shall come to pass until the deepstate is executed by military tribunals. Confounding and ever increasing confusion is upon ALL perpetrators of Barack's Zombie Apocalypse army seditious treason to oust the legitimate president of the us gov.. You all have the right to remain silent. ... All the damned will be hanged upon the gallows they hastily constructed for Trump. Death to the deepstate !

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leaking the Flynn phone call was leaking classified info.
try this:

BRIT HUME: What looks like what happened here, Tucker, is that they were eavesdropping on the Russian ambassador and they pick up his conversation or his conversations with Mike Flynn.

They now are in possession through classified information of very sensitive information on two counts. One is that the information itself is classified and having it get out might compromise sources and methods.

And the second is that they have information that they probably shouldn't have or should be very careful with about the private conversations of United States citizen. So that information is doubly deserving of the kind of protections that intelligence agencies are used to providing and it leaked out.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ed_leaked.html

Noise, noise, noise, your citing Bret Hume, who at one time did have a reputation for journalism, commenting on Tucker Carson's TV show, a demogogue with next to zero credibility, and that is your source that this is now something new and earthshaking?

Even forgetting the sources, when you see the "what looks like" and the "might" it should have tipped you out all they are doing is planting innuendos, it's their job, it is State TV