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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    As long as Abatis has admitted the right of SCOTUS to rule on Heller, the discussion is over.
    Anyone who would say that a structure of government created by the Constitution, has "rights", has for all intents and purposes eliminated themselves from being considered a competent voice to discuss the topic.

    Pure idiocy . . .
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    When we speak of the duty assigned a tribunal to adjudicate a dispute the correct term is jurisdiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    When we speak of the duty assigned a tribunal to adjudicate a dispute the correct term is jurisdiction.
    PS Semantic errors don't usually disqualify people IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abatis View Post
    Anyone who would say that a structure of government created by the Constitution, has "rights", has for all intents and purposes eliminated themselves from being considered a competent voice to discuss the topic. Pure idiocy . . .
    You are stupid, which has little to do with intellect but more with being unable to learn new things that clash with your world view.

    Since the SCOTUS has recognized corporations as having rights, only a matter of time before such recognition will be given to unions and governments. You really emote instead of think.


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    Pmp=" .....once upon a time a super majority thought killing your unborn children was a bad thing......."

    My recollection from reading Roe, which in some part contain a survey of history of abortion, this statement is untrue.
    The criminalization of abortion was recent and for vast swaths of history it was, generally speaking allowed. That was
    some of the rationale supporting the decision to the extent it prohibits states from burdening the right to privacy prior to viability.
    It's been years since I read it, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    You are stupid, which has little to do with intellect but more with being unable to learn new things that clash with your world view.

    Since the SCOTUS has recognized corporations as having rights, only a matter of time before such recognition will be given to unions and governments. You really emote instead of think.

    I'm stupid for having not learned and accepted something that you imagine will happen in the future?
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    People are stupid because they refuse to think outside of their narrowly conceived little world of thoughts, which is fine.

    People overwhelmingly are like that.
    Last edited by jimmymccready; 09-13-2018 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    You are stupid, which has little to do with intellect but more with being unable to learn new things that clash with your world view.

    Since the SCOTUS has recognized corporations as having rights, only a matter of time before such recognition will be given to unions and governments. You really emote instead of think.

    I think it's bizarre to imbue a corporation with rights which in my estimation depend for their existence of biology. cf the right of a corporation to sue and be sued,
    that right is not biological in origin. It's origin is to be able to protect the individual investor from liability exceeding his/her investment and is a creature of statute.
    You can't have people organizing as a corporation and also insist the corporation has no exposure in addition to the investors. So that is the reason the statutes
    of every stat'es corporation code state that a corporation is a natural person by construction of its laws. But in the case of say, free speech, that is a right organic
    to a natural person and can be distinguished. Therefore I think it is borderline absurd to claim the corporation qua corporation has that particular right, and therefore
    the right to contribute unlimited sums to campaigns secretively or otherwise. The individuals that compose the corporation already have that right to speech,
    and its at least dbl dipping to confer it again if they line up in a group or create 1000 LLCs and each one can free their respective speech as a corp form by
    providing money to campaigns.

    Its basically an absurdity and I expect that it will be overruled once sensible apolitical minds are seated on scotus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    People are stupid because they refuse to think outside of their narrowly conceived little world of thoughts, which is fine.

    People overwhelmingly are like that.
    So I was flapping my gums when you incorrectly believed I wasn't showing SCOTUS the proper respect as arbiter and now I'm stupid for not thinking outside the box and corrupting the most fundamental terminology, imbuing SCOTUS with the absurd notion that they have "rights".

    And you want me to believe you understand anything about the law?
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    Fallacy of false composition, Abatis. You don't get to recast my comments into your box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Fallacy of false composition, Abatis. You don't get to recast my comments into your box.
    Bullshit.

    I cast your statements just as they are and just to be clear, I will to do whatever I want to do with your childishly incongruent arguments.

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    Because you can't argue my points, Abatis, you change them into a false composition.

    No, it was not definitely col. mustard. with a wrench in the study.

    I call BS on you and your word silliness and emotional childishness. Do you want the last word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Because you can't argue my points, Abatis, you change them into a false composition.
    You made points?

    That's the biggest lie you've told yet.

    Please link to a post where you made an actual point.
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    Abatis, you were corrected appropriately, and you have been crying ever since. I won't argue your silliness, merely point it out.

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