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    You aren't a lawyer. I am. Your opinions are meaningless. A null set. This thread doesn't even exist!

    You wouldn't know stare decisis from staring at your cousin's tramp stamp, rube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    This is a good example of the ignorance of the right wing. SCOTUS does not write laws. They interpret laws according to the Constitution. Of course, KillerText does not understand the difference between "interpret", and "Write", anymore then TiffyDon understands the concept of "settled".
    Where in the US Constitution was the Supreme Court given the power to interpret the Constitution?

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    Heller and Citizens United are settled law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    You aren't a lawyer. I am. Your opinions are meaningless. A null set. This thread doesn't even exist!

    You wouldn't know stare decisis from staring at your cousin's tramp stamp, rube.
    Is it your contention that a majority of justices can't change ANY decision made previously?

    If it is..you are no lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Is it your contention that a majority of justices can't change ANY decision made previously?

    If it is..you are no lawyer
    You think if I say something that's not true I'm not a lawyer? I daresay you are not a lawyer. LMFAO

    checkmate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Heller and Citizens United are settled law
    And can be overturned like any other decision.

    Why in the hell would ANYONE support Citizen's United anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    You think if I say something that's not true I'm not a lawyer? I daresay you are not a lawyer. LMFAO

    checkmate.
    Dude if you think that Justices can't overturn just about any SC decision if they have the majority...you aren't a very GOOD lawyer anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    And can be overturned like any other decision.

    Why in the hell would ANYONE support Citizen's United anyway?
    Yes and no. Things that can be overturned, we are in the realm of very narrow.
    There is the law. It's not like a clean slate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Dude if you think that Justices can't overturn just about any SC decision if they have the majority...you aren't a very GOOD lawyer anyway.
    Bullshit. You left yourself some wiggle room however.

    Let me know when Marbury v Madison is overturned. The law is sedimentary rock.

    Be amazed now, quote me later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Of course law may be that settled.

    If the super majority of society thinks X is so, SCOTUS won't go with Y.
    is that really your standard?.......once upon a time a super majority thought separate but equal was a solution.........once upon a time a super majority believed that marriage meant the union of a man and a woman........once upon a time a super majority thought killing your unborn children was a bad thing.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Bullshit. You left yourself some wiggle room however.

    Let me know when Marbury v Madison is overturned. The law is sedimentary rock.

    Be amazed now, quote me later.
    So your claim is that Roe can't be overturned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    So your claim is that Roe can't be overturned?
    No. I attacked your silly proclamation, not the judicial tensile strength of Roe.

    Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    I don't disagree with you.

    Stare Decisis is a fantasy that has only occasionally been honored.

    Roe V Wade is absolutely in jeopardy

    This is what you get when you have Republicans running anything

    Forget that at your peril
    What do you think would happen if Roe v Wade was overturned? (It won't be, John Roberts has spent many long years setting himself up to become the "new Kennedy", so no change of balance will happen).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What do you think would happen if Roe v Wade was overturned? (It won't be, John Roberts has spent many long years setting himself up to become the "new Kennedy", so no change of balance will happen).
    You're relying on ROBERTS to save Roe?

    Good fucking luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    You're relying on ROBERTS to save Roe?

    Good fucking luck
    I'm not relying on anybody to save anything. I'm not particularly worried about Roe v. Wade. I notice you didn't answer the question.

    What do you think would happen if Roe v. Wade was overturned?
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