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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    This defeats every argument of atheism.
    Don't worry about us, G.
    If money gets tight, we'll just pass around a collection plate like you clowns do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Robert Tilton was one of my favorite tongue talkers.

    Google “Farting Preacher 4”. I used to laugh to that til the cows came home.
    Like all TELevangelists, his flatulence was epic on many levels.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

    rac·ist
    rāsəst/noun
    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    A 50 minutes sermon, no thanks
    I’ll put mine on here...they’re only about 25 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I’ll put mine on here...they’re only about 25 minutes.
    I’ve said before, I’d like to hear you, and that’s perfect time.
    "An elective despotism was not the government we fought for, but one which should not only be founded on true free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among general bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Most of you ARE "believers."

    Some people "believe" there is at least one god.

    Some people "believe" there are none.

    ALL those "believers" are making blind guesses...
    (even the "personal revelation" ones.)
    But a true atheist is just one who doesn't believe in a god. That's the meaning of the word.
    RINO is the term for a Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    But a true atheist is just one who doesn't believe in a god. That's the meaning of the word.
    Actually...that is not the meaning of the word. It is the way the word is most often used at this time.

    In any case, what you quoted me saying stands.

    There are people who "believe" there is a GOD.

    There also are people who "believe" there are no gods.

    Both of those groups are people who do "believing"...albeit in opposite directions.

    Essentially they are blindly guessing one way or the other...and calling their blind guess a "belief."

    Nothing wrong with that...but that is what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Actually...that is not the meaning of the word. It is the way the word is most often used at this time.

    In any case, what you quoted me saying stands.

    There are people who "believe" there is a GOD.

    There also are people who "believe" there are no gods.

    Both of those groups are people who do "believing"...albeit in opposite directions.

    Essentially they are blindly guessing one way or the other...and calling their blind guess a "belief."

    Nothing wrong with that...but that is what they are doing.
    Blind Faith is no faith at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Michaels View Post
    Blind Faith is no faith at all!
    The only kind of "faith" that exists when it comes to whether a "god" exists or "no gods" exist...IS BLIND.

    Anyone saying "There is a GOD" or "There are no gods"...is simply sharing a BLIND GUESS.
    Last edited by Frank Apisa; 09-15-2018 at 04:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Actually...that is not the meaning of the word. It is the way the word is most often used at this time.
    Actually, the dictionary meaning of the word is: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods."

    "a" when used as a prefix to a noun, means "without'. So atheism means "without theism" or without belief in the existence of a god or gods.

    In any case, what you quoted me saying stands.

    There are people who "believe" there is a GOD.

    There also are people who "believe" there are no gods.

    Both of those groups are people who do "believing"...albeit in opposite directions.

    Essentially they are blindly guessing one way or the other...and calling their blind guess a "belief."

    Nothing wrong with that...but that is what they are doing.
    Exactly. There's zero evidence for either set of beliefs. Which makes the belief that there are no gods the one more likely to be correct.
    RINO is the term for a Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Bonefide atheist/atheism exists in as bonefide school of thought: Buddhism or Hindu Advaita-ism.

    Did ya'll know that?

    Aside from that ANY so called self-proclaimed atheist is just a coffee house bohemian poet who thinks they know it.

    Atheism has long ago been codified in the "Buddhist" and Hindu "Advaita" treatises.

    Cool man cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Actually, the dictionary meaning of the word is: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods."
    As I said, that is not the meaning of the word...it simply is the way it is used most often these days. That was not always the case. I doubt you could find a dictionary published prior to (let's say) 1950 that uses that. Prior to the technology age, the meaning most often used was, "Someone who asserts that no gods exist."



    "a" when used as a prefix to a noun, means "without'. So atheism means "without theism" or without belief in the existence of a god or gods.
    That IS NOT its etymology. In fact, if you look in an etymological dictionary, you will see that atheism came into the English language BEFORE theism...so it could NOT have derived that way.

    The word comes to us from the Greek, through the French...and its actual etymology is "a" (without) + "theos" (a god) = without a god. (I needn't point out that asserting one is without a god necessitates asserting there are no gods.)

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/athe...online_v_18013

    Exactly. There's zero evidence for either set of beliefs. Which makes the belief that there are no gods the one more likely to be correct.
    That is not logic...it is a gratuitous conclusion...based on nothing.

    There is no logical way to conclude "it is more likely that there is a GOD than that there are no gods." AND...there is no logical way to conclude "it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one GOD."

    Both are nothing more than blind guesses (often with lipstick applied and called "beliefs.")

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    atheism is the only belief system that condemns its own doctrine........"thou shall not believe that its absolutely true that there is no god".......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Try reading the OP before replying. Otherwise, no one will take you seriously. Also, you might want to try refuting what was said. That's what intelligent and rational people do. For instance, is there such a thing as absolute truth? Yes or no.
    you gave us nothing to read - it is a sermon - and a rather sophomoric one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I've never seen a valid argument from an atheist......
    why does my faith need a valid argument?

    I've never seen a Christian that doesn't quickly descend into hypocrisy - as you just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    you gave us nothing to read - it is a sermon - and a rather sophomoric one at that.
    that doesn't change the fact that it refutes every claim of atheism....that's fairly easy, and I've been doing it myself for years....it just means you didn't bother to listen to it..........

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