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    Default Free tuition for medical students at NYU from now on.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/n...al-school.html

    I suddenly feel compelled to study medicine.

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    Well this is great then. All these freebie students will go into practice offering all their patients free care just to show their appreciation.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Tuition may be free but that article isn't. "You have reached your limit of free articles."

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    Doctors are the biggest bandits in the country.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    Tuition may be free but that article isn't. "You have reached your limit of free articles."
    Try another site....................

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science...-reap-benefits
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    Tuition may be free but that article isn't. "You have reached your limit of free articles."
    run crapclear - you can down load it free,and it removes all cookies,as well as temp files etc.
    Mkaes the computer run at top processing speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    Tuition may be free but that article isn't. "You have reached your limit of free articles."
    We subscribe. Here you go:
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    The New York University School of Medicine announced on Thursday that it would cover the tuition of all its students, regardless of merit or need, citing concerns about the “overwhelming financial debt” facing graduates.

    N.Y.U.’s initiative comes at a time when affordability has become an increasingly urgent issue in higher education, with some graduates struggling with thousands of dollars in debt.

    To date, much of the effort has centered on helping undergraduates cover the balance of their tuition bills, including at community colleges in Tennessee, and two- and four-year schools in New York under the new Excelsior Scholarship.

    In the field of medicine, schools have become worried that students saddled with steep debt are increasingly pursuing top-paying specialties rather than careers in family medicine, pediatrics and research. So it was big news in December when Columbia announced a $250 million gift from Dr. P. Roy Vagelos, an alumnus who is a former chairman of Merck & Co., and his wife, Diana, that would offer students with the greatest financial need full-tuition scholarships, and other students grants, rather than loans.

    But N.Y.U.’s plan, which was announced Thursday morning in an unexpected ending to the annual “White Coat Ceremony” for new students and their families, goes beyond that, and may spur other top medical schools to follow suit. In a statement, N.Y.U. said that it would be the only top-ranked medical school in the nation to offer full-tuition scholarships to all students.

    The plan, effective immediately, covers all current and future students. Annual tuition is roughly $55,000. There are 93 first-year students, and another 350 students who have up to three years left before obtaining their degrees. (A small group of new and current students who are enrolled in joint M.D./Ph.D. programs already have their tuitions paid for, thanks to the National Institutes of Health.)

    The plan does not cover room and board or fees, which together are an additional $27,000, on average.

    About 62 percent of N.Y.U.’s School of Medicine graduates leave with some debt; the average debt incurred by members of the class of 2017 was $184,000.

    “This decision recognizes a moral imperative that must be addressed, as institutions place an increasing debt burden on young people who aspire to become physicians,” said Robert I. Grossman, dean of the medical school and chief executive officer of N.Y.U. Langone Health.

    N.Y.U. said that it had raised more than $450 million of the $600 million that it anticipates will be necessary to finance the tuition plan. About $100 million of that has been contributed by Kenneth G. Langone, the founder of Home Depot, and his wife, Elaine, for whom the medical school is named.

    To date, only a handful of institutions have tried to make medical education tuition-free, according to Julie Fresne, senior director of student financial services of the Association of American Medical Colleges, a nonprofit organization that represents medical schools.

    At UCLA’s David Geffen School of Medicine, a $100 million fund announced several years ago pays for the entire cost of medical school for all four years, including tuition, fees, books and living expenses for roughly 20 percent of its students. But that program is based on merit, not need.

    Meanwhile, a small medical school affiliated with Case Western Reserve University at the Cleveland Clinic covers the tuition and fees for its five-year program focusing on research.

    Most of the roughly 20,000 students per year enrolled in American medical schools take out sizable federal loans to support their studies. According to the Association of American Medical Colleges, in 2017, the median debt for graduating medical students was $192,000. The median cost of medical school attendance, including living expenses, was $60,945 a year for public medical school and $82,278 for private medical school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Well this is great then. All these freebie students will go into practice offering all their patients free care just to show their appreciation.
    Many physicians do. That being said, given the huge debt-load that most docs graduate with, the vast majority have to join established practices rather than opening their own where they have more leeway to do exactly what you suggest. The days of a physician seeing patients out of a wing of his house converted into a clinic, like the doc we had growing up, are long gone. Oh, and he made house calls too.

    You're not in favor of medical students graduating with humongous debt, right?

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    Thanks to the extraordinary generosity of our trustees, alumni, and friends, our hope—and expectation—is that by making medical school accessible to a broader range of applicants, we will be a catalyst for transforming medical education nationwide,” said Kenneth G. Langone, chair of NYU Langone Health’s board of trustees.

    Together with his wife Elaine, Langone, who made his $3.5 billion fortune as a cofounder of Home Depot, has given $100 million to fund the tuition package. NYU has raised more than $450 million of the $600 million it will need to fund the program.


    The Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine of Case Western Reserve has paid full tuition and fees since 2008 but it has only 32 students. The NYU scholarship will go to more than 400.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanad.../#5386d06fa9d8


    Thousands apply and few are accepted

    Don't think many trump rubes have the grades it get in to begin with, they are more fitted to bible skools
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    Admission requirements to NYU medical school


    https://med.nyu.edu/education/md-deg...s-requirements
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Many physicians do. That being said, given the huge debt-load that most docs graduate with, the vast majority have to join established practices rather than opening their own where they have more leeway to do exactly what you suggest. The days of a physician seeing patients out of a wing of his house converted into a clinic, like the doc we had growing up, are long gone. Oh, and he made house calls too.

    You're not in favor of medical students graduating with humongous debt, right?
    I was being sarcastic. I know those kids won't freely give what they freely received.
    If private citizens like in this case want to make it more financially bearable for our future physicians, fine.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I was being sarcastic. I know those kids won't freely give what they freely received.
    You know this how?


    If private citizens like in this case want to make it more financially bearable for our future physicians, fine.
    It's a wonderful gift. Assuming there is much left after we pass over, and our kids are taken care of, we are leaving the rest of our wealth to fund an engineering scholarship at Mr. Owl's alma mater, the University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You know this how?
    We'll know in about 8 years.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Many physicians do. That being said, given the huge debt-load that most docs graduate with, the vast majority have to join established practices rather than opening their own where they have more leeway to do exactly what you suggest. The days of a physician seeing patients out of a wing of his house converted into a clinic, like the doc we had growing up, are long gone. Oh, and he made house calls too.

    You're not in favor of medical students graduating with humongous debt, right?
    This is key:

    In the field of medicine, schools have become worried that students saddled with steep debt are increasingly pursuing top-paying specialties rather than careers in family medicine, pediatrics and research. So it was big news in December when Columbia announced a $250 million gift from Dr. P. Roy Vagelos, an alumnus who is a former chairman of Merck & Co., and his wife, Diana, that would offer students with the greatest financial need full-tuition scholarships, and other students grants, rather than loans.

    (Medical school in the US costs ten times as much as it does in other countries)

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    Doctors are the biggest bandits in the country.

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