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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I thought it depended on what the meaning of “is” is

    Guess not anymore

    I also thought it was the job of any defense attorney to mount the most vigorous defense possible.

    Maybe you think we should have skipped the trial fir Manafort?
    If the defense requires you to believe in an alternate reality, it’s a clear bet the defendant is guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    He either lied or did not lie. It cannot be both.

    Since Flynn admitted he lied, I believe him.
    Are you saying nobody has ever admitted to something they didn’t do just to make something go away?

    I mean when Mueller is threatening you with financial ruin and going after your son wouldn’t you fall on the sword?

    According to you Flynn was supposed to have “flipped” by now

    I assume since Mueller hasn’t dropped a bomb on Trump that there is no flipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Same thought process as alternative facts, in other words, Trump believes everything he says is truth, but 90% is alternative facts.
    Then it would be up to YOU to present the objective, testable, reproducible evidence that demonstrates these alternative facts are not based upon a PRIMA FAICE TRUTH. Prosecute away...….


    If there was such evidence.....Mueller would have wrapped up this so called Special Investigation months ago. Because its still ongoing proves only one thing....Mueller is still fishing for his IDEA OF THE TRUTH that can be labeled a crime. Hell he's been attempting to bait Mr. Trump into a perjury charge or an obstruction charge to MUELLERS own investigation for over a year (nothing to do with the original mission statement of finding a crime based upon Trump/Russia collusion.....and he has failed miserably. Its the same way.....BJ BILL ended up getting impeached in Congress....he walked right into a perjury trap and lied under oath. Sex? I did not have sex with that young woman....define sex. Trump and team are just to damn smart to be impeached on any "procedural charge of crime".


    This entire investigation is based upon the fruit of a poison tree. Why? There never was a charge of any crime that would merit such an investigation. What High Crime was Mr. Trump charged with? Name it. The Steele Dossier has objectively been discredited because of its source.... a foreign agent supposedly garnering information from a foreign nation and paid for by Mr. Trump's political enemy. The US DOJ, or FBI never had any evidence of a crime to present to the fisa court......without the Steele Dossier the court was approached in 2016 and rejected the warrant to spy. It was only after the FBI pretended the Steele Dossier was garnered from their own research was the court favorable for these 4 warrants.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I thought it depended on what the meaning of “is” is

    Guess not anymore

    I also thought it was the job of any defense attorney to mount the most vigorous defense possible.

    Maybe you think we should have skipped the trial fir Manafort?
    I’m confused, are you comparing Trump to Clinton? Remember Clinton was guilty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Are you saying nobody has ever admitted to something they didn’t do just to make something go away?

    I mean when Mueller is threatening you with financial ruin and going after your son wouldn’t you fall on the sword?

    According to you Flynn was supposed to have “flipped” by now

    I assume since Mueller hasn’t dropped a bomb on Trump that there is no flipping.
    I did not say that, but the truth is still the truth, he either did it... or lied to the judge about doing it. The truth is the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Then it would be up to YOU to present the objective, testable, reproducible evidence that demonstrates these alternative facts are not based upon a PRIMA FAICE TRUTH. Prosecute away...….


    If there was such evidence.....Mueller would have wrapped up this so called Special Investigation months ago. Because its still ongoing proves only one thing....Mueller is still fishing for his IDEA OF THE TRUTH that can be labeled a crime. Hell he's been attempting to bait Mr. Trump into a perjury charge of an obstruction to MUELLERS own investigation for over a year.....and has failed miserably.
    But that’s not what Giuliani is saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If you are supporting a man whose lawyer argues that “truth isn’t truth”, you are a deluded idiot!

    Think about that argument for a moment, he is asking you to pretend the truth does not exist, and you are doing it!

    Obviously you can tell an idiot anything, and they’ll believe it.
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Then it would be up to YOU to present the objective, testable, reproducible evidence that demonstrates these alternative facts are not based upon a PRIMA FAICE TRUTH. Prosecute away...….


    If there was such evidence.....Mueller would have wrapped up this so called Special Investigation months ago. Because its still ongoing proves only one thing....Mueller is still fishing for his IDEA OF THE TRUTH that can be labeled a crime. Hell he's been attempting to bait Mr. Trump into a perjury charge or an obstruction charge to MUELLERS own investigation for over a year (nothing to do with the original mission statement of finding a crime based upon Trump/Russia collusion.....and he has failed miserably. Its the same way.....BJ BILL ended up getting impeached in Congress....he walked right into a perjury trap and lied under oath. Sex? I did not have sex with that young woman....define sex. Trump and team are just to damn smart to be impeached on any "procedural charge of crime".



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    Even if Mueller were wrong (he is not) the truth would still be the truth, idiot!

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    Giuliani is basically admitting that you have to deny the truth to believe Trump is innocent.

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    Todd almost fell off his chair laughing at the absurdity of that. It was ridiculous. I also knew Trumplestilskins would try and defend it. Sorry kiddies, you are wrong. Truth is truth. You guys are too wrapped up in trump to have any values anymore. Big brother type logic has ben adopted by the trumpies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Todd almost fell off his chair laughing at the absurdity of that. It was ridiculous. I also knew Trumplestilskins would try and defend it. Sorry kiddies, you are wrong. Truth is truth. You guys are too wrapped up in trump to have any values anymore. Big brother type logic has ben adopted by the trumpies.
    All the Trumppers have left is to pretend the truth is not the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    But that’s not what Giuliani is saying.
    Its not what HE'S saying....its what you are not saying with the evidence to back it up. That's the bell weather indicator of deception. How many ambulances have you actually caught while in the chasing mode?


    Do you have any other baseless unproven accusations to toss at the Attorney that actually cleaned up NEW YORK CITY? What have "you" cleaned up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Its not what HE'S saying....its what you are not saying with the evidence to back it up. That's the bell weather indicator of deception.
    Direct quote, “the truth isn’t truth.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    TRUTH ... OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE ... CLINTON MACHINE ... blah blah blah
    Trump supporters and extreme right 'share widest range of junk news'

    Researchers at the Oxford Internet Institute analysed three months of social media activity of US Twitter and Facebook users from November 2017 to January 2018. They find that on Twitter, a network of Trump supporters shares the widest range of junk news and circulates more junk news than all other political audience groups combined.

    Junk news sources are defined as deliberately publishing misleading, deceptive or incorrect information purporting to be real news about politics, economics or culture. This type of content can include various forms of extremist, sensationalist and conspiratorial material, as well as masked commentary and fake news.

    http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-02-06-...nge-junk-news#

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