Smoking is restricted. Should "vaping" or e-cigarette use have the same restrictions?

[sear]

In many locations and jurisdictions tobacco smoking is restricted or prohibited.

But "e-cigarettes" were used as a loop-hole in those legal restrictions.

a) Should such legal loop-holes now be closed? Should locations where tobacco smoking is restricted also restrict vaping?

b) Should age restrictions (usually for those younger than 21) also apply to vaping?

[Centerleftfl]

I honestly have no idea what vaping does? Is it innocuous 'flavored' waters? Is it just another NICOTINE delivery system? If so, how many other chemicals are mixed in? Is it intended for long term use or was it designed to get people off cigs?

[sear]

All sensible questions Cl.
But this is the United States. It's quite rare to find a product on the market that's designed and intended to sell once.
So they sell the device. Then they also sell the goo to be spilled into it, to generate the fumes.

Some sources say vape doesn't have all the dangerous chemicals of more conventionally combusted tobacco. But I gather vape can have nicotine in it.
I'd prefer not to be down-wind of it, at a bar, restaurant, or DMV.

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I've been vaping for 5 or 6 years now years now. There's no combustion, fire, no smoke, no carcinogens released in the air, no reason to lump it in with stinky tar and other toxins being released into the air. It's vapor. If you're out walking on a cold day you see people naturally exhaling vapor with every breath they take all day and night. When it's NOT cold...you just don't see anything.

Still, the polite and considerate thing to do (which most all experienced vapers know) is just be thoughtful and courteous to those around you and simply ask if those close by mind if you vape. Most don't mind, but if someone does just step away for a moment. Even when I'm outdoors I take care to exhale down and/or away from anyone near by......much the same as when I used to smoke.

All ejuice companies offer percentages of nicotine. One can start off at 32 and work their way down to 0. Or just happily remain at 3 or 6 forever. Some would rather get their nic with a patch or gum and others prefer vaping. Some people like their "buzz" with caffeine and guzzle sodas and coffee all day.

I think 18 is a good age for restriction. I didn't even start smoking until I was 20, but most begin in their early teens. So, it WOULD be a shame though not to be able to offer them another option to help them cut down or quit if they're under 18.

[Stretch]

I honestly have no idea what vaping does? Is it innocuous 'flavored' waters? Is it just another NICOTINE delivery system? If so, how many other chemicals are mixed in? Is it intended for long term use or was it designed to get people off cigs?

All excellent questions. This may help

[Eagle_Eye]

I can see vaping being treated the same as cigarettes, cigars, pipes ect. If snuff, or chewing tobacco, or other non smoke related products are banned.

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There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element

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What's in ecig vapor?

1) propylene glycol which is used in baby aspirin (among thousands of other products); it's also been pumped through hospital ac vents since the 50's because it sanitizes the air.
2) vegetable glycerin
3) food flavorings
4) water

That's it.

[Mason Michaels]

Vaping is another delivery system for nicotine addicts!

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I can see vaping being treated the same as cigarettes, cigars, pipes ect. If snuff, or chewing tobacco, or other non smoke related products are banned.

It's been an ongoing fight with the gubment because big tobacco has taken a giant hit over the last 10 years in revenue with the advent of pvd's (personal vaping devices). Almost overnight a few years back, a pack of cigs went from $1.50 to $4 and $5. They want their money!

[Stretch]

Vaping is another delivery system for nicotine addicts!

Yep and there's nothing wrong with that.

But, a lot of us now vape at zero nic.

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I've been vaping for 5 or 6 years now years now. There's no combustion, fire, no smoke, no carcinogens released in the air, no reason to lump it in with stinky tar and other toxins being released into the air. It's vapor. If you're out walking on a cold day you see people naturally exhaling vapor with every breath they take all day and night. When it's NOT cold...you just don't see anything.

Still, the polite and considerate thing to do (which most all experienced vapers know) is just be thoughtful and courteous to those around you and simply ask if those close by mind if you vape. Most don't mind, but if someone does just step away for a moment. Even when I'm outdoors I take care to exhale down and/or away from anyone near by......much the same as when I used to smoke.

All ejuice companies offer percentages of nicotine. One can start off at 32 and work their way down to 0. Or just happily remain at 3 or 6 forever. Some would rather get their nic with a patch or gum and others prefer vaping. Some people like their "buzz" with caffeine and guzzle sodas and coffee all day.

I think 18 is a good age for restriction. I didn't even start smoking until I was 20, but most begin in their early teens. So, it WOULD be a shame though not to be able to offer them another option to help them cut down or quit if they're under 18.

Some people are just not bloody happy unless they can be health fascists, fuck 'em.

[Mason Michaels]

Yep and there's nothing wrong with that.

But, a lot of us now vape at zero nic.

Whenever I been to the Vap store,the strong nicotine sold the best!

[Mason Michaels]

It's been an ongoing fight with the gubment because big tobacco has taken a giant hit over the last 10 years in revenue with the advent of pvd's (personal vaping devices). Almost overnight a few years back, a pack of cigs went from $1.50 to $4 and $5. They want their money!

The cigarette companies are marketing the off shore market!

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It's been an ongoing fight with the gubment because big tobacco has taken a giant hit over the last 10 years in revenue with the advent of pvd's (personal vaping devices). Almost overnight a few years back, a pack of cigs went from $1.50 to $4 and $5. They want their money!

That is because of taxes and the tobacco settlements. The government wants more of their money to fund their special favors slush funds.

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Whenever I been to the Vap store,the strong nicotine sold the best!

OK