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    Default VETERANS group sue over TRUMP's Maralago buddies taking over VA healthcare

    You mean country club types shouldn't be plotting the 'sale' of VETERANs healthcare ? Especially if their only qualification is beingTMMs? One being the CEO of 'Marvel Entertainment--all 3 Trump's Maralago Members. It is absurd and an insult.

    Sue Over Reported Troika Of VA 'Shadow Rulers' From Mar-a-Lago


    "The health and safety of veterans isn’t a game for Trump’s Mar-a-Lago members to play with between rounds of golf," an Iraq War vet said.

    By Mary Papenfuss

    08/16/2018 11:24 PM ET
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    Updated 2 hours ago

    A veterans group has sued to stop a triumvirate of billionaires hand-picked by President Donald Trump among his wealthy Mar-a-Lago members who are reportedly serving as “shadow rulers” secretly calling the shots at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.

    Democratic leaders demanded an investigation into a report by ProPublica last week that Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter, Palm Beach Dr. Bruce Moskowitz and attorney Marc Sherman are making hiring and policy decisions at the massive federal agency even though they have no experience serving in the military or government, nor have they gone through any vetting or approval process.

    ProPublica cited hundreds of pages of documents and interviews revealing several meetings and conference calls by the men with senior VA officials. The men spoke with officials daily, reviewing policy and personnel decisions, and often treated the administration like their own private company, except they didn’t understand the work, ProPublica reported. VA officials even traveled to Mar-a-Lago at taxpayer expense to meet with them.

    VoteVets, an activist organization that says it represents 500,000 veterans, filed a suit with the aid of the progressive group Democracy Forward to shut down what it called the “Mar-a-Lago Council” and “compel the Trump administration to fully disclose the role members of the president’s private golf club are playing in shaping decisions that affect millions of America’s veterans,” said a statement...

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    Sounds like they should be going after the elected officials who listen to them instead of the influencers

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    You get what you Voted for ... Enjoy
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    You get what you Voted for ... Enjoy
    Unfortunately the VETS get what we voted for. And the ones that need the VA the most are the ones stuck with the latest 'iteration' of a fix.
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    I don't recall any of them passing a house or senate committee vote. They answered no questions. this is horrible and treasonous. Trump has no bottom. Just handing power over the VA to members of his golf club is impeachable.

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    Isn't it strange that not one major news media outlet has picked this story up. All reports are from known left wing sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Isn't it strange that not one major news media outlet has picked this story up. All reports are from known left wing sources.
    It would be something to look into if there were corroborating, unbiased sources. I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It would be something to look into if there were corroborating, unbiased sources. I agree with you.
    Especially since Trump is so disliked by the major media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It would be something to look into if there were corroborating, unbiased sources. I agree with you.
    You actually think a bunch of VETERANS and the lawyers, willing to take on this case, likely PRO-BONO, wouldn't think to see if these 3 guys were indeed calling the Pentagon and the VA and asking for briefings related to VA healthcare? No paperwork, relying on just word of mouth or newspaper stories? Uncorroborated news stories? And that no VA officials traveled down to meet with the 3 men at their request to MAR A LAGO? The veterans and the lawyers just relied on all made up 'uncorroborated' sources?

    Yeah, sure, WHY NOT! None of the participants have anything better to do with their time and money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Isn't it strange that not one major news media outlet has picked this story up. All reports are from known left wing sources.
    Yeah those RADICALS at Stars and Stripes and CNBC and AXIOS. Hair on fire lefties. And even the NY POST (owned by Murdoch) worked on it. And only would the HOLLYWOOD REPORTER do a story about such a 'boring' subject if it wasn't for the fact a HOLLYWOOD player was a part of the deal. (How TRUMPIAN!)

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    Veterans group sues VA over 'Mar-a-Lago Crowd'

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    The Shadow Rulers of the VA — ProPublica

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    Aug 7, 2018 - The third member is a lawyer named Marc Sherman. ... The Mar-a-Lago Crowd spoke withVA officials daily, the documents ..... 27, 2018, Shulkin flew to Mar-a-Lago — not to see Trump, who was back ... Three people familiar with the situation said the memo was sent to Sandoval as a channel to Perlmutter.


    Three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago Buddies Are Secretly Running the V.A. ...


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    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../vets-sue-over-secret-va-influencers_us_5b761948...

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    Trump's Mar-a-Lago friends have been acting as 'shadow rulers' of the ...

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    Aug 8, 2018 - Three of President Donald Trump's allies who are also members of his ... shaping the administration's policies affecting millions of veterans ... ProPublica reports people inside the VA refer to them as the "Mar-a-Lago Crowd.


    Ike Perlmutter Has Been Secretly Advising the Department of Veteran ...

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    Aug 7, 2018 - ... overseeing policy at the VA for months, with a significant hand in shaping policy, ... None of the three men holds official government positions and none are veterans. All are members of Trump-owned Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, where ... Sherman and Moskowitz, dubbed the "Mar-a-Lago crowd" by VA ...



    Lawmakers Call for Broad Changes at VA After Report of Mar-a-Lago ...

    https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2018/08/...va...mar-lago-members.../150421/

    Aug 9, 2018 - One top committee member launches investigation into alleged undue ... to the VAsecretary saying he was “deeply concerned” that three men with ... All of them are members of Mar-a-Lago, a Florida resort owned by President Trump. ... and shape policies that affect the VA and ourveterans,” Takano said.


    From United States - Google News - Overview

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    The truth about David Shulkin - Axios

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    You actually think a bunch of VETERANS and the lawyers, willing to take on this case, likely PRO-BONO, wouldn't think to see if these 3 guys were indeed calling the Pentagon and the VA and asking for briefings related to VA healthcare? No paperwork, just word of mouth or newspaper stories? Uncorroborated news stories. And that no VA officials travelled down to meet with the 3 men at their request to MAR A LAGO? The veterans and the lawyers just relied on all made up 'uncorroborated' sources.

    Yeah, sure, WHY NOT! None of the participants have anything better to do with their time and money!
    I am clear on what I said. No need to have a hissy fit. Huffington post is useless as tits on a nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I am clear on what I said. No need to have a hissy fit. Huffington post is useless as tits on a nun.
    And that is why I posted a myriad of OTHER sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Yeah those RADICALS at Stars and Stripes and CNBC and AXIOS. Hair on fire lefties. And even the NY POST (owned by Murdoch) worked on it. And only would the HOLLYWOOD REPORTER do a story about such a 'boring' subject if it wasn't for the fact a HOLLYWOOD player was a part of the deal. (How TRUMPIAN!)

    Trump's Mar-a-Lago Cronies Secretly Shaped Veterans Affairs Policy ...

    https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-mar-lago-cronies-secretly-shaped-veterans-affairs-...

    Aug 8, 2018 - Three associates of the president spoke with top Veterans Affairs officials daily. ... chairman Ike Perlmutter—have been quietly shaping Veterans Affairs (VA) ... All three are members ofTrump's Palm Beach Mar-a-Lago resort.



    Veterans group sues VA over 'Mar-a-Lago Crowd'

    Stars and Stripes · 19 hours ago


    More for 3 mar a lago members shaping the VA for Trump


    Trump Letting Mar-a-Lago Cronies Run the VA: ProPublica Report


    Trump allies, Mar-a-Lago members are making decisions for VA: Report

    https://www.cnbc.com/.../civilians-from-mar-a-lago-drive-us-policy-on-military-veter...


    Aug 7, 2018 - An "informal council" of three confidants of President Donald Trump who have neither served in the U.S. military nor hold government positions ...


    Veterans Affairs is being shaped by Trump's Mar-a-Lago cronies. | The ...

    https://newrepublic.com/minutes/.../veterans-affairs-shaped-trumps-mar-a-lago-cronies

    Aug 8, 2018 - ... Donald Trump's friends, who meet at his members-only Florida club, are ... The Mar-a-Lago Crowd spoke with VA officials daily, the documents ... that Trump's campaign against McCain isshaping how others in the .... Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time.


    Veterans group sues VA over 'Mar-a-Lago Crowd' - News - Stripes

    https://www.stripes.com/.../veterans-group-sues-va-over-mar-a-lago-crowd-1.542991

    20 hours ago - The suit is a response to a news report that revealed the three were exerting major influence over the VA and secretly shaping Trump's veterans policies. ... veterans isn't a game for President Trump's Mar-a-Lago members to ...


    Mar-a-Lago members have 'influence' on Donald Trump's VA: report

    https://nypost.com/2018/.../mar-a-lago-members-have-influence-on-trumps-va-report/


    Aug 8, 2018 - Three members of president Trump's Florida golf club Mar-a-Lago who are not government officials have “sweeping influence” over the ...Missing: shaping ‎| ‎Must include: ‎shaping

    The Shadow Rulers of the VA — ProPublica

    https://www.propublica.org/.../ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shado...

    Aug 7, 2018 - The third member is a lawyer named Marc Sherman. ... The Mar-a-Lago Crowd spoke withVA officials daily, the documents ..... 27, 2018, Shulkin flew to Mar-a-Lago — not to see Trump, who was back ... Three people familiar with the situation said the memo was sent to Sandoval as a channel to Perlmutter.


    Three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago Buddies Are Secretly Running the V.A. ...


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    Aug 8, 2018 - Three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago Buddies Are Secretly Running the V.A. ... Trump speaking with members of the armed forces via video conference ...Missing: shaping ‎| ‎Must include: ‎shaping

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    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../vets-sue-over-secret-va-influencers_us_5b761948...

    14 hours ago - "The health and safety of veterans isn't a game for Trump's Mar-a-Lago members to ... inshaping decisions that affect millions of America's veterans,” said a ... of all communications VAleadership has had with the three Trump ...


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    Lawmakers Call for Broad Changes at VA After Report of Mar-a-Lago ...

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    Aug 9, 2018 - One top committee member launches investigation into alleged undue ... to the VAsecretary saying he was “deeply concerned” that three men with ... All of them are members of Mar-a-Lago, a Florida resort owned by President Trump. ... and shape policies that affect the VA and ourveterans,” Takano said.


    From United States - Google News - Overview

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    Aug 7, 2018 - Three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago Buddies Are Secretly Running the V.A. ... Report: ThreePrivate Civilians Have Been Shaping Policy at the VA From .... Meet 'The Shadow Rulers Of The VA': 3Nonvet Mar-a-Lago Members.


    The truth about David Shulkin - Axios

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    Mar 25, 2018 - Trump's Mar-a-Lago buddy Chris Ruddy made a splash on TV today, telling ABC's ... not the president, tell me that Veterans Affairs Secretary David [Shulkin] is likely ... is playing a major backstage role in shaping Trump's thinking about Shulkin. .... I followed the group on the last three days of the campaign.


    Informal advisers secretly steer Veterans Affairs policies from Mar-a-lago

    https://www.axios.com/veterans-affairs-maralago-informal-advisers-trump-ike-perlmu...

    Aug 8, 2018 - Documents show they spoke daily with VA officials and shaped ... Three members of President Trump's Mar-a-Lago beach club, led by longtime Trump ..... Ex-FCC chief: Big Tech should seize the chance to shape regulation.












    Of all your links only about 4 can be considered major news outlets and of those 3 lean left. Get back to me when CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX report on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Of all your links only about 4 can be considered major news outlets and of those 3 lean left. Get back to me when CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX report on it.
    Those leaning can also be reporting the news. The fact that they are not Fox does not mean they are not correct. The National Enquirer has broken huge stories. When it comes from a source you do not like, do not simply dismiss it. Wait and see if other sources corroborate.

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    And that is why I posted a myriad of OTHER sources.
    I read through about half of them. Did not bother looking at the rest. At least you were honest enough not to say non partisan sources.

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