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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Washington (CNN)With Labor Day rapidly approaching, one thing is becoming clear: All signs point to the Democratic wave growing rather than shrinking in the final weeks of the 2018 election.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    My cynical prediction, and boy should that be taken with a grain of salt, is that Democrats will gain just enough ground to barely lose winning control of either house of Congress.

    I’ve seen nothing to indicate they’ve learned the lesson from 2016. Democrats have been losing elections but winning the culture wars for quite some time now. Dems have done a great job of expanding the scope of individual liberties.

    So why do they lose elections then? Because they have abandoned a focus on expanding the economic liberties, and protecting them, for working and middle class people. Instead of fighting for our fair share of the economic pie, Democrats have been fighting, and winning, for the rights of transgender people to pee in the bathroom of their choice.

    These are battles Republicans are more than willing to lose as long as they get to keep all the money.

    Trump won election by demonizing immigrants and foreigners and by using economic populism. He co-opted the economic bread and butter kitchen table economics that Democrats abandoned.

    I’ve seen nothing to indicate that Democrats have learned their lesson. What I’ve seen is a Democratic Party doubling down on Identity politics and hoping Trump will be such a slug that he’ll hang him self.

    So what I see is Republicans keeping control of both houses by a narrow margin and, unless someone dramatic changes, Trump winning re-election. A combination of progressive socialism and identity politics is a sure loser.
    I think it is entirely plausible that the democrat party takes the House of Representatives. I think the GOP can actually gain seats in the Senate just because the map favors them greatly.

    The rest of you analysis is sprinkled with some truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    My cynical prediction, and boy should that be taken with a grain of salt, is that Democrats will gain just enough ground to barely lose winning control of either house of Congress.

    I’ve seen nothing to indicate they’ve learned the lesson from 2016. Democrats have been losing elections but winning the culture wars for quite some time now. Dems have done a great job of expanding the scope of individual liberties.

    So why do they lose elections then? Because they have abandoned a focus on expanding the economic liberties, and protecting them, for working and middle class people. Instead of fighting for our fair share of the economic pie, Democrats have been fighting, and winning, for the rights of transgender people to pee in the bathroom of their choice and progressive socialism.

    These are battles Republicans are more than willing to lose as long as they get to keep all the money.

    Trump won election by demonizing immigrants and foreigners and by using economic populism. He co-opted the economic bread and butter kitchen table economics that Democrats abandoned.

    I’ve seen nothing to indicate that Democrats have learned their lesson. What I’ve seen is a Democratic Party doubling down on Identity politics and hoping Trump will be such a slug that he’ll hang him self.

    So what I see is Republicans keeping control of both houses by a narrow margin and, unless something dramatic changes, Trump winning re-election. A combination of progressive socialism and identity politics is a sure loser.
    As of today, I think you have judged this correctly. Nice, pragmatic and unbiased post, Mott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    If there is no huge backlash, this country is totally fucked and can never lead the free world. It will mean that the total idiot hillbilly uneducated
    redneck gullible asshole loser factor is far to ingrained to be remedied by the visceral, visible, total inanity and foolishness that has been displayed without consequence.
    It's that critical. It's like a nuclear bomb nailing DC and people whistling and acting like nothing is wrong. I hope people notice this nuclear war on the USA
    by Republicans.
    If Democrats depend on a political backlash on Trump to win they will lose. Just barely maybe but they will lose because they are not addressing the issues that drove people to vote for Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    If Democrats depend on a political backlash on Trump to win they will lose. Just barely maybe but they will lose because they are not addressing the issues that drove people to vote for Trump.
    I haven’t seen this message against Trump in a Texas, they seem to be focusing on issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    As of today, I think you have judged this correctly. Nice, pragmatic and unbiased post, Mott.
    Keep in mind I predicted Clinton would defeat Trump handily in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I haven’t seen this message against Trump in a Texas, they seem to be focusing on issues.
    Are they focusing on economic issues like retaking our collective bargaining rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Keep in mind I predicted Clinton would defeat Trump handily in 2016.
    As I, and the rest of the world, did.

    The 'Blue Wave' assumption (like the Hillary prediction) may be just as elusive. That's why I agree with your outlook as of Today.
    (Transgender bathrooms might be cool, but a promise of a higher paying job gets the vote)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Are they focusing on economic issues like retaking our collective bargaining rights?
    He has held the opinion in the past that it’s okay for the private sector, but not public sector. I have not heard him address the issue, lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    As I, and the rest of the world, did.

    The 'Blue Wave' assumption (like the Hillary prediction) may be just as elusive. That's why I agree with your outlook as of Today.
    (Transgender bathrooms might be cool, but a promise of a higher paying job gets the vote)
    Democrats are too afraid of losing big donors by taking on economic inequality head on. Hardly anyone wants more social government programs to counter inequality. What the people want is to fight on a level playing field to keep more of the economic pie we produce. Instead Democratic leadership is afraid of being labeled as fighting class warfare which would upset big donors.

    Some Democrat politician might figure that out and that would be a game changer. I’m not holding my breath that it will though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    He has held the opinion in the past that it’s okay for the private sector, but not public sector. I have not heard him address the issue, lately.
    I bet you won’t either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    If Democrats depend on a political backlash on Trump to win they will lose. Just barely maybe but they will lose because they are not addressing the issues that drove people to vote for Trump.
    Do you think the unpopularity of tariffs in the groups hit hardest by them economically would be a valid point for (D) candidates to hammer on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I haven’t seen this message against Trump in a Texas, they seem to be focusing on issues.
    What issues are they focusing on there?

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    again weve never had a wave election with the right track/ wrong track where they are now.
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