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    Default Lilly insulin prices?!!

    On this evenings national news, they talked about this. In 1996 a vial of insulin cost $21, in 2018 a vial of insulin cost $320?!! People are dying because they can't afford the price of insulin! This not a new drug, how do you justify these increases?!! Trump's FDA head, Gottlieb is a favorite of the pharmaceutical industry. But his close ties with drug companies have some critics raising concerns about potential conflicts of interest.

    http://www.therepublic.com/2017/09/0...er_microscope/

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    We must not say anything though to the pharm companies because capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We must not say anything though to the pharm companies because capitalism.
    Or you can thank them for developing the insulin pens and pumps and new diabetic drugs. Not all insulin is going up BTW. Long-Acting Lantus has been going down.

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    Given the opportunity, I would nationalize big pharma faster than you could call me a commie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Given the opportunity, I would nationalize big pharma faster than you could call me a commie.
    Sure because the people who buy $800 toilet seats would surely bring prices down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Sure because the people who buy $800 toilet seats would surely bring prices down.
    That's on us.

    We get the politicians that we elect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    That's on us.

    We get the politicians that we elect.
    You didn't elect Scott Pruitt and, well, he was no spendthrift on his offices.

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    I didn't elect the orange baboon who appointed Pruitt with no democratic support, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We must not say anything though to the pharm companies because capitalism.
    Yep....it was BIG BROTHER that spent hundreds of millions, if not 10s of billion researching, developing/creating, and distributing these life saving drugs. Do you know what drugs Big Brother is concentrating and making it possible to give to society? HEMP. Big Brother owns nothing it has not TAKEN from the private sector....it creates nothing, it produces nothing....Big Brother was created/founded for one/two reasons.....DEFENSE and REGULATION. Why? It has the capacity to create nothing....its wealth is stolen from the private sector. (All Socialists nations of history have learned this lesson the hard way....just ask the nation/nations formerly known as the USSR.

    If you want to know why these prices remain artificially high? Ask your friendly neighborhood POLITICAN as he/she makes her way to their own personal bank accounts after receiving Chump Change from the lobby industry. Just who do these supposed REPRESENTATIVES work for?

    That's what is meant by DRAINING the swamp. Leftists can be such idiots. They advocate Socialism....and forget that its CAPITIALISM that drives this train they are riding on themselves. Emotional twits....ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Given the opportunity, I would nationalize big pharma faster than you could call me a commie.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Ditto.
    That's what Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin....ALL SAID. Then, we can take their guns, nationalize the banking system (whoops my bad...the progressive Woodrow Wilson has already accomplished that), nationalize the education system, and all of health care (and then use the MEDIA as a propaganda arm of the collective)...……. As I said, ILLOGICAL emotional twits. What is a TWIT? For one...its someone that has been taught nothing by History Actual.

    I have a better IDEA....Drain the Swamp....and start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep....it was BIG BROTHER that spent hundreds of millions, if not 10s of billion researching, developing/creating, and distributing these life saving drugs. Do you know what drugs Big Brother is concentrating and making it possible to give to society? HEMP. Big Brother owns nothing it has not TAKEN from the private sector....it creates nothing, it produces nothing....Big Brother was created/founded for one/two reasons.....DEFENSE and REGULATION. Why? It has the capacity to create nothing....its wealth is stolen from the private sector. (All Socialists nations of history have learned this lesson the hard way....just ask the nation/nations formerly known as the USSR.

    If you want to know why these prices remain artificially high? Ask your friendly neighborhood POLITICAN as he/she makes her way to their own personal bank accounts after receiving Chump Change from the lobby industry. Just who do these supposed REPRESENTATIVES work for?

    That's what is meant by DRAINING the swamp. Leftists can be such idiots. They advocate Socialism....and forget that its CAPITIALISM that drives this train they are riding on themselves. Emotional twits....ALL.
    The only thing in your rant that I agree with is that politicians are in the pockets of big pharma. Did you know that they also spend BILLIONS to convince physicians and nurse practitioners to prescribe the newest (and most expensive) meds? BILLIONS. Where do you suppose they get those billions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Yep....it was BIG BROTHER that spent hundreds of millions, if not 10s of billion researching, developing/creating, and distributing these life saving drugs. Do you know what drugs Big Brother is concentrating and making it possible to give to society? HEMP. Big Brother owns nothing it has not TAKEN from the private sector....it creates nothing, it produces nothing....Big Brother was created/founded for one/two reasons.....DEFENSE and REGULATION. Why? It has the capacity to create nothing....its wealth is stolen from the private sector. (All Socialists nations of history have learned this lesson the hard way....just ask the nation/nations formerly known as the USSR.

    If you want to know why these prices remain artificially high? Ask your friendly neighborhood POLITICAN as he/she makes her way to their own personal bank accounts after receiving Chump Change from the lobby industry. Just who do these supposed REPRESENTATIVES work for?

    That's what is meant by DRAINING the swamp. Leftists can be such idiots. They advocate Socialism....and forget that its CAPITIALISM that drives this train they are riding on themselves. Emotional twits....ALL.
    No they don't. Pharm tellhttps://successfulstudent.org/best-drug-design-colleges/s stories. We pay for research in colleges. Private compnies do research. Pharm swoops in at the end, ,makes a company rich and makes Pharm richer. They kjust take the college research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The only thing in your rant that I agree with is that politicians are in the pockets of big pharma. Did you know that they also spend BILLIONS to convince physicians and nurse practitioners to prescribe the newest (and most expensive) meds? BILLIONS. Where do you suppose they get those billions?
    That's what makes you IGNORANT. Where do corporations get their MILLIONS? People freely chose to purchase their products.....if you don't want to purchase, don't. The reason for the inflated costs? Politicians and their enforced monopolies. Before Big Brother began looking out for the health care of THE PEOPLE.....do you know what an office visit cost? 10-15 bucks....now with our best interests at heart...that same visit to get your GOVERNMENT PROVIDED nasal spray? About 200 bucks and 75 dollars charged to the BANK ACCOUNT OF THE PEOPLE.....for a 3 buck cost nasal spray.


    A much more efficient health care plan? Give every US CITIZEN a private account for physician's visits. About 5 k a year.....make it a personal account that would reduce every time you visited the physician of your choice. If any money was left over at the end of the year.....IT BELONGS to the private citizen. So.....you would not go to the doctor every time you get a hang nail because it costs you nothing...YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE PAYS FOR THE MAJORITY COST OF THE VISIT. Get some skin in the game.....and bingo you stop the waste. What about real emergencies and accidents......you give...freely to each citizen a 100% coverage type plan called "catastrophic coverage"....that would not bankrupt you and your family if required for use. Those type of plans cost pennies to the dollars compared to the costs now being forced upon the people through government protected monopolies.
    Last edited by Ralph; 08-15-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    That's what Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin....ALL SAID. Then, we can take their guns, nationalize the banking system (whoops my bad...the progressive Woodrow Wilson has already accomplished that), nationalize the education system, and all of health care (and then use the MEDIA as a propaganda arm of the collective)...……. As I said, ILLOGICAL emotional twits. What is a TWIT? For one...its someone that has been taught nothing by History Actual.

    I have a better IDEA....Drain the Swamp....and start over.
    So your answer is shout out a meaningless cliche!
    And that fixes everything!

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