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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Libs shoot themselves in the foot when every single little thing concerning Trump turns into a volcanic emotional apocalyptic eruption , it just increases Trump's base. Go for it.
    So you don't care whether or not he said racist crap and used the n-word, it appears. I predicted this when Mr. Owl and I were discussing it earlier. He said it would harm Trump with his base; I said based on what I've seen of his base, many of them are racist too and will just call it another nothingburger.

    Looks like I'm right, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    They should play the thing or stfu about it.
    No, they should milk it and drag it out forever, and only when the last voter stops caring, release it, and then play it over and over like my sherona by the knack every 10
    Minutes for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So you don't care whether or not he said racist crap and used the n-word, it appears. I predicted this when Mr. Owl and I were discussing it earlier. He said it would harm Trump with his base; I said based on what I've seen of his base, many of them are racist too and will just call it another nothingburger.

    Looks like I'm right, sadly.
    Of course. A no brainer. He could come out and go on an n word rant on Twitter today and they would only love him more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So you don't care whether or not he said racist crap and used the n-word, it appears. I predicted this when Mr. Owl and I were discussing it earlier. He said it would harm Trump with his base; I said based on what I've seen of his base, many of them are racist too and will just call it another nothingburger.

    Looks like I'm right, sadly.
    What I said had nothing to do with whether I personally cared about what Trump may or may not have said. You jump to conclusions. You leave out the only important fact. Evidence. Imaliar says she has recorded proof. Fine. Let's hear it.
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    What I said had nothing to do with whether I personally cared about what Trump may or may not have said. You jump to conclusions. You leave out the only important fact. Evidence. Imaliar says she has recorded proof. Fine. Let's hear it.
    Once you hear it, and he does indeed use that language, will your opinion of Trump change at all? Will you still defend him? Most importantly, would you vote for him if he does run again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Once you hear it, and he does indeed use that language, will your opinion of Trump change at all? Will you still defend him? Most importantly, would you vote for him if he does run again?
    1)yes
    2)no; I don't defend anyone for using a racial epithet
    3)probably not; but it would depend more on his actions rather than words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    1)yes
    2)no; I don't defend anyone for using a racial epithet
    3)probably not; but it would depend more on his actions rather than words
    Honest response, thanks. #3 though... that sounds like his actions so far haven't bothered you much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Honest response, thanks. #3 though... that sounds like his actions so far haven't bothered you much.
    I'm fine with his actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    facts are facts no matter what evil idiots refuse them
    Sooo, let's hear the tape. What "facts" are you talking about?
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I'm fine with his actions.
    That's sad. Mocking disabled ppl, mocking women for their looks/weight, racist comments, continued attacks on sports ppl/media personalities/celebrities -- those are okay to you? You don't find that sort of grade school behavior demeaning in an adult, much less your POTUS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    That's sad. Mocking disabled ppl, mocking women for their looks/weight, racist comments, continued attacks on sports ppl/media personalities/celebrities -- those are okay to you? You don't find that sort of grade school behavior demeaning in an adult, much less your POTUS?
    It's OK. I already knew you were going to go off on a "hate Trump" rant at some point. You're entitled to your political preferences. It would be nice if you could allow the same for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It's OK. I already knew you were going to go off on a "hate Trump" rant at some point. You're entitled to your political preferences. It would be nice if you could allow the same for others.
    Those things are okay? Gods. BTW, pointing out egregious behaviors does not = "hate."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Those things are okay? Gods. BTW, pointing out egregious behaviors does not = "hate."
    I didn't agree or disagree with you on personal behavior. There are posters here 24/7 non-stop attacking personalities and physical attributes. Do and say whatever floats your boat. I just won't get into that conversation, OK? I'll stick with political beliefs and decisions.

    egregious synonyms: shocking, appalling, terrible, awful, horrendous, frightful, atrocious, abominable, abhorrent, outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I didn't agree or disagree with you on personal behavior. There are posters here 24/7 non-stop attacking personalities and physical attributes. Do and say whatever floats your boat. I just won't get into that conversation, OK? I'll stick with political beliefs and decisions.

    egregious synonyms: shocking, appalling, terrible, awful, horrendous, frightful, atrocious, abominable, abhorrent, outrageous.
    Perfect, thanks. All describe most of Trump's behaviors and words. I suppose your take is different, but I cannot separate words/actions into political and not-political when it comes to an elected official. For example, I voted for Clinton the first time but not the 2nd time despite the economy doing well. His behaviors with Lewinsky were -- wait for it! -- egregious.

    I realize I'm not going to change your mind about Trump any more than you'll change mine. Mostly I'm just totally puzzled as to how a rational person like yourself can continue to support him despite all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    No, they should milk it and drag it out forever, and only when the last voter stops caring, release it, and then play it over and over like my sherona by the knack every 10
    Minutes for a year.
    All in keeping with the furtherance of a divided mass of the people toward the benefit of a few of privilege.

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