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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Read the thread title you're posting on stupid
    When did the Tariffs go into effect? China Tariffs July 6, 2018 DOW was at 24,556. Aluminum and steel tariffs March 23 DOW was at 23,533. Current DOW is 25,187.

    Got math? Now we also know that there is not an immediate impact when Tariffs go into effect no matter how shrill the leftist dumbasses get.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Hey idiot...that was the claim of the fucking thread stupid.
    Hey fucktard read my post above then; you rant like a moron, you are clueless like a moron and you are repugnant like a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Hey fucktard read my post above then; you rant like a moron, you are clueless like a moron and you are repugnant like a moron.
    Here's the thread title MORON

    Anyone speculate why the stock market continues to climb in the face of tariffs?

    There's a timeline there...and during that timeline the DOW lost a thousand points. That's not "climbing" is it...

    Stop playing stupid or people will begin to believe it's not an act

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    When Trump was inaugurated the DOW was at 19,827.25. Closed today at 25,187.50. That's a gain of over 5,360 points. WTF is your issue with that?
    Here’s the way it works, you ignorant dumbfuck. It wasn’t his market the minute he took office. That’s your typical simpleton’s take.

    His policies have now sunk in and taken effect and the market is flat.

    Stupid fucking Trumptard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    It is an interesting phenomenon isn't it? Everyone has screamed calamity while President Trump is trying to reset the trade imbalance that exists in the world. Germany wants to be free to sell its cars here but puts barriers to the US selling our cars there. That is not free trade.


    As the stock market discounts the future, one would think that if the market thought that these tariffs would have negative consequences for the US economy we would be seeing a massive decline in the stock market

    However, it has been slowly inching up. Can anyone explain why?

    I think I know, but want to hear others input first.

    Liberals, here is your chance to wow us with your financial acumen. You aren't being thread banned so please take advantage of this rare opportunity
    Bonds still suck more. Either way, I keep most of my market money in overseas funds as a hedge against a severe correction. My dollar based investment is mostly in real estate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    When did the Tariffs go into effect? China Tariffs July 6, 2018 DOW was at 24,556. Aluminum and steel tariffs March 23 DOW was at 23,533. Current DOW is 25,187.

    Got math? Now we also know that there is not an immediate impact when Tariffs go into effect no matter how shrill the leftist dumbasses get.
    From wiki
    The Trump tariffs are a series of tariffs imposed during the presidency of Donald Trump. In January 2018, Trump imposed tariffs on solar panels and washing machines,[1] and later the same year, he imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum.[2][3] On June 1, 2018, the United States imposed a 25% tariff on imports of steel, and a 10% tariff on aluminum, on the European Union, Canada, and Mexico.[3]

    So aside from your cherry picking bullshit...the OP is 180 backwards.

    The Dow DROPPED a thousand points since this tariff bullshit began

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I didn't think any of our left wingers would be able to answer.

    The answer is the free flow of capital. Canada, Turkey, and other countries are seeing outflows of capital. Capital will always seek refuge in safe places and it flows easier than people. I am not saying all of the capital is flowing to the US, but much is and that means a growing economy.

    #MAGA

    The lessons are free folks
    It is not as simplistic as you paint it. Beginning in about 2014, foreign reserve banks needed to start holding fewer dollars in reserve because oil price began dropping and oil trades in dollars. Add to that something people do not realize--a lot of those mega-balance offshored profits of US companies actually do get routed back into the US markets via investments that appear to be foreign investments but are actually domestic investments washed through these shell companies.There have also been a few things going on about Asia that has sent money back our way, notably a slight depreciation of the chinese currency and some adjustments in regulations that had previously limited Asian insurance companies from establishing foreign reserves now being loosened (i.e. they can now invest in the US markets instead of their own respective domestic markets).

    Foreign investment does not necessarily stimulate the economy. The availability of more dollars overseas due to the lowered oil prices does not require that foreign investors get their dollars from new trade. They can get them from the surpluses no longer needed still being held by those reserve banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    From wiki
    The Trump tariffs are a series of tariffs imposed during the presidency of Donald Trump. In January 2018, Trump imposed tariffs on solar panels and washing machines,[1] and later the same year, he imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum.[2][3] On June 1, 2018, the United States imposed a 25% tariff on imports of steel, and a 10% tariff on aluminum, on the European Union, Canada, and Mexico.[3]

    So aside from your cherry picking bullshit...the OP is 180 backwards.

    The Dow DROPPED a thousand points since this tariff bullshit began
    Wiki?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    It is an interesting phenomenon isn't it? Everyone has screamed calamity while President Trump is trying to reset the trade imbalance that exists in the world. Germany wants to be free to sell its cars here but puts barriers to the US selling our cars there. That is not free trade.


    As the stock market discounts the future, one would think that if the market thought that these tariffs would have negative consequences for the US economy we would be seeing a massive decline in the stock market

    However, it has been slowly inching up. Can anyone explain why?

    I think I know, but want to hear others input first.

    Liberals, here is your chance to wow us with your financial acumen. You aren't being thread banned so please take advantage of this rare opportunity
    Simple....the US ECONOMY is now in the drivers seat. The democrat plan was to allow Wall St. to influence the economy....having the mule push the plow again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I didn't think any of our left wingers would be able to answer.

    The answer is the free flow of capital. Canada, Turkey, and other countries are seeing outflows of capital. Capital will always seek refuge in safe places and it flows easier than people. I am not saying all of the capital is flowing to the US, but much is and that means a growing economy.

    #MAGA

    The lessons are free folks
    As,"money in circulation," duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    The DOW is a approximately 5300 higher than it was the day the black President left office.

    Like the largest voting bloc for Obama, most supporters can't do simple math.
    Based on that criteria, Obama was a genius given the Market rose close to 13,000 higher while he was in office, and he started facing a historical recession unlike Trump who was handed a climbing economy on his first day

    Do you think this good ole boy above is going to recognize Obama's accomplishment based on his own criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Simple....the US ECONOMY is now in the drivers seat. The democrat plan was to allow Wall St. to influence the economy....having the mule push the plow again.
    Oh, so you are saying if the Market went belly up as it did in 2008 the current economy would stay the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Based on that criteria, Obama was a genius given the Market rose close to 13,000 higher while he was in office, and he started facing a historical recession unlike Trump who was handed a climbing economy on his first day

    Do you think this good ole boy above is going to recognize Obama's accomplishment based on his own criteria?
    13,000/96 months = 135.42 points/month average.

    5300/19 months = 278.95 points/month average.

    Are you going to give Trump credit based on your criteria?

    While we're at it, should I calculate how much it went up under Hillary? Wait, she lost 304 - 227.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so you are saying if the Market went belly up as it did in 2008 the current economy would stay the same?
    Pucker up, n-lover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so you are saying if the Market went belly up as it did in 2008 the current economy would stay the same?
    No….I am saying THIS CURRENT ECONOMY is not based upon a false bubble like the crash in 2008. The economy would crash before the stock market which would in turn have every investor make a run at Wall St. You know.....having the mule pull the plow. The reason the market is basically static is because the economy is holding it steady in spite of the fear mongering from the press. Why? Because the US is the greatest economy on earth and can basically dictate to the other dependent nations that could not have any resemblance of a good economy void of the US MARKET. Its not rocket science.....it just proves that Capitalism is far superior than the idiot based Keynesian plan used by the dimwits.

    Obama attempted to use Keynesian Economics in the recovery under his watch....what happened? The slowest recovery since the great depression......and the only administration that did not have 1 year of a GDP at least in the 3% range....the 1st time in history. That's some economic intelligence reflected there...no?

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