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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    It would be pretty easy to do yourself using any college library database with word search capability.
    I very much doubt even the most corrupt and motivated denier could develop a word search string that would refute the consensus.
    Basically ever single paper I've ever seen either explicitly concludes or implicitly assumes by adopting prior science
    that the physical science basis is at play causing global climate change from carbon forcing by man. This isn't even debatable.
    We are just counting heads on this one. You think the head count is wrong? Put up or STFU.
    Even Havana’s beloved Judith Curry agrees, she just doesn’t agree that it is alarming.

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    Curry actually believes, along with the vast majority of climate scientists, that humans are warming the planet, and was even an outspoken advocate of the issue during the George W. Bush years. She was among the first to connect global warming to hurricanes, for example, publishing an influential study in Science in 2006. But where she breaks with the majority opinion is over just how much humans are actually causing global temperatures to rise.

    https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060047798

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    And now ladies and gents, a classic example of -I am the center of the universeism -:
    "Wow; I had no idea that 97% of the scientists in the world are this retarded." TD #145


    How fortunate we all are to have TD #145 lowering himself to post with us commoners,
    you know; the ones that are open minded to consensus expert scientific opinion in the 3rd Millennium.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Even Havana’s beloved Judith Curry agrees, she just doesn’t agree that it is alarming.
    It's like an asteroid the size of Texas coming towards earth and half the US population is wearing solar eclipse glasses because
    3 percent of the scientists said it would harm their eyes to look at it. That's the part I do not understand.

    What's wrong with the messaging when a mere 3 % can sway the opinion of 1/2?

    Answer: The Republican opinion makers on matters of science aren't scientists
    But why not? That is the inconvenient truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Curry actually believes, along with the vast majority of climate scientists, that humans are warming the planet, and was even an outspoken advocate of the issue during the George W. Bush years. She was among the first to connect global warming to hurricanes, for example, publishing an influential study in Science in 2006. But where she breaks with the majority opinion is over just how much humans are actually causing global temperatures to rise.
    .8 degrees, over the last 150 years. Color me alarmed. BTW, we recently had a mini ice age. Perhaps that's why temperatures are rising. Also, geological data suggests that global temperatures used to be significantly higher. And that was before humans supposedly existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    .8 degrees, over the last 150 years. Color me alarmed. BTW, we recently had a mini ice age. Perhaps that's why temperatures are rising. Also, geological data suggests that global temperatures used to be significantly higher. And that was before humans supposedly existed.
    Even small increments have a profound effect on the oceans. That was then, this is now and why not change what will help our species survive? We are a resourceful lot and if we recognize what is happening we can make beneficial changes to help protect ourselves, just as we overcame the trials of the mini ice age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Curry actually believes, along with the vast majority of climate scientists, that humans are warming the planet, and was even an outspoken advocate of the issue during the George W. Bush years. She was among the first to connect global warming to hurricanes, for example, publishing an influential study in Science in 2006. But where she breaks with the majority opinion is over just how much humans are actually causing global temperatures to rise.
    Hey Doris, why not let her speak for herself rather than you spinning bullshit! If you followed the literature, which of course you don't, you'd know that the latest paper on the value of ECS, co-written with Nic Lewis, puts it at around 1.66C.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/...y-interviewed/

    http://archive.fo/JBkT1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Hey Doris, why not let her speak for herself rather than you spinning bullshit! If you followed the literature, which of course you don't, you'd know that the latest paper on ECS co-written with Nic Lewis puts ECS at around 1.66C

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/...y-interviewed/

    http://archive.fo/JBkT1
    DAMN! There you go again. Telling the truth. Not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Hey Doris, why not let her speak for herself rather than you spinning bullshit! If you followed the literature, which of course you don't, you'd know that the latest paper on ECS co-written with Nic Lewis puts ECS at around 1.66C

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/...y-interviewed/

    http://archive.fo/JBkT1
    Uh, note to moron, that is exactly what Phantasmal described. A case where there is belief but not dire is consistent with a belief in 1.5 eq. sensitivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Curry actually believes, along with the vast majority of climate scientists, that humans are warming the planet, and was even an outspoken advocate of the issue during the George W. Bush years. She was among the first to connect global warming to hurricanes, for example, publishing an influential study in Science in 2006. But where she breaks with the majority opinion is over just how much humans are actually causing global temperatures to rise.

    https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060047798
    Good point.
    Judith Curry never bugged me that much, because she accepted the basic tenets of human-induced climate change associated with our emissions of GHG. She only dabbled at the margins of magnitude and severity.

    That is within the boundaries of science and reasonable discourse.

    In contrast, what the climate denial community has done for over two decades is bouncing back and forth between preposterous and/or unsubstantiated claims (aka, there is no warming; scientists faked data and lied; it's a hoax; its the sun, et al.). -- and all of this bouncing around between various theories has one goal, and one goal only: to delay, deny, downplay, and defer any reasonable action to mitigate and prepare for what is probably coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Good point.
    Judith Curry never bugged me that much, because she accepted the basic tenets of human-induced climate change associated with our emissions of GHG. She only dabbled at the margins of magnitude and severity.

    That is within the boundaries of science and reasonable discourse.

    In contrast, what the climate denial community has done for over two decades is bouncing back and forth between preposterous and/or unsubstantiated claims (aka, there is no warming; scientists faked data and lied; it's a hoax; its the sun, et al.). -- and all of this bouncing around between various theories has one goal, and one goal only: to delay, deny, downplay, and defer any reasonable action to mitigate and prepare for what is probably coming.
    Odious fucker, I have posted hundreds of articles and blog posts by Judith Curry ffs!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Odious fucker, I have posted hundreds of articles and blog posts by Judith Curry ffs!!
    I don't think anyone has disputed that.

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    The only real difference between Richard Lindzen and Judith Curry is the value of the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS), the former thinks the value is nearer to 1.2C, whereas the latter think it around 1.6-1.7C. Otherwise they are pretty in lockstep with each other.

    https://physicstoday.scitation.org/d...T.5.8071/full/

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    The only real difference between Richard Lindzen and Judith Curry is the value of the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS), the former thinks the value is nearer to 1.2C, whereas the latter think it around 1.6-1.7C. Otherwise they are pretty in lockstep with each other.

    https://physicstoday.scitation.org/d...T.5.8071/full/

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