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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    So midterms are coming up pretty soon, and I can't seem to find any information on what agenda Democrats are going to be campaigning on besides Trump hate and free shit that other people pay for. Can some of you lefties list what other agenda there will be besides these two things?
    Doesn't really matter. The DNC's internet troll farm is so offensive to most people that they won't even bother getting to know who their candidate is. They will vote against them out of spite for the left. Fine with me because of all that enemy of my enemy stuff, but kind of sucks for people who are actually hurting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Again, since you've clearly been up for at least a week now on shit meth: nothing is free, fucknugget, and nothing you've posted contradicts that assertion.
    Just answer the question, you stupid tampon. lol

    If nothing is free, then how in the fuck are the poor not paying for their welfare?
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Issues on November's ballot:

    1. Health care reform
    This is free shit. This is about getting free health care that somebody else paid for in addition to their own.

    2. Gun control
    Ok, this is above and beyond free shit or Trump hate, very good. It is about stopping other people from buying what they want to buy with their own money, but is not specifically about free shit.

    3. Immigration reform
    Free shit for immigrants.

    4. The economy, inflation
    Lots of free shit.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    So you are into right wing crap and know nothing about lefty ideas. I expected that. You won't find liberal policies on Fox Gnus, Breitbart or Infowars;
    Ok then, you only know of Trump hate and free shit.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Ok then, you only know of Trump hate and free shit.
    There is no free shit. Universal healthcare provides all with care and does it cheaper. We eliminate the VA, Medicare and Medicaid. We eliminate the Healthcare deniers, the insurance companies. You don't get a money taken out of your check for insurance. It is better and cheaper. That is not free anything. We get taxed for it.

    Yeah, part of Social Security goes to families that the provider dies. It covers kids with horrible illnesses. So some people do get help for free. I guess that is a Democrat thing. Repubs don't want to help.

    Trump is a disgusting human being and a self-serving king. I don't hate him, but I recognize what he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This is free shit. This is about getting free health care that somebody else paid for in addition to their own.



    Ok, this is above and beyond free shit or Trump hate, very good. It is about stopping other people from buying what they want to buy with their own money, but is not specifically about free shit.



    Free shit for immigrants.



    Lots of free shit.
    So a rational discussion with you boils down to regurgitated talking points.

    Dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    It's "FREE" for the recipients .....
    Welfare ended with the Newt Revolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    There is no free shit. Universal healthcare provides all with care and does it cheaper. We eliminate the VA, Medicare and Medicaid. We eliminate the Healthcare deniers, the insurance companies. You don't get a money taken out of your check for insurance. It is better and cheaper. That is not free anything. We get taxed for it.
    The money removed from workers' paychecks now for FICA would be used instead for a national healthcare plan. Employers would also be off the hook for providing company-paid health care insurance; instead we would tax them a bit more to cover the cost -- and they would still save $$. We can still have insurance companies because 1) we don't want to shut down an entire industry and throw thousands out of their careers, and 2) many will want to purchase supplemental plans much like we do now with Medicare.

    Yeah, part of Social Security goes to families that the provider dies. It covers kids with horrible illnesses. So some people do get help for free. I guess that is a Democrat thing. Repubs don't want to help.
    E pluribus unum used to be a motto we respected. We also used to have a national mindset of "We're all in this together". It's that mindset that built the interstate highway system and maintains it, funds free public education, provided electricity (and modern living) to millions in the South, promotes R&D and science, makes sure that our food/water/medications/etc are safe, and so on.


    Trump is a disgusting human being and a self-serving king. I don't hate him, but I recognize what he is.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    Just answer the question, you stupid tampon. lol

    If nothing is free, then how in the fuck are the poor not paying for their welfare?
    You poor, pathetic meth-whore. So confused that you can't even post straight.

    Nothing is free.

    The poor pay taxes that feed into welfare.

    You have no idea what you're braying about.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...probably-think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    He really is a dreamer isn't he? Universal healthcare would cost upward of 32 Trillion bucks and would keep rising.
    Nope. Universal; health care has worked well in other countries. they cover everybody and do it at half our costs. Our medical system is a device to loot the people. As I pointed out a couple times, we would eliminate the VA, Medicare and Medicaid. Then the costs to workers would be gone. The money exists and it would be cheaper. But then, you are not to analtytical are you? Throw out a right wing stat like it is real and stop.

    You are old enough to know many presidential campaigns were arguing that our medical system will break the country. That is from Ikes time onward. Did you miss that? So doing nothing is disastrous. Obama tried and the Repubs sabotaged it over and over. This is not a new problem and it has to be addresed. You would rather close your eyes are scream about fake news numbers.

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    We pay for healthcare now. We pay more than double what other countries pay and get worse healthcare and millions get none. The money is being spent and robbed now. There is no new money needed. We will save money. No it would not be free. It sure as hell isn't free now. But universal care would save us money.


    Budget for VA, 90 billion, Medicare 672 billion, Medicaid, 3.3 billion. That is about 800 billion start. Then, of course, we pay about 1200 a month foir work-related healthcare. That would end. The money wasted in health insurance "providers' would stop. That kiddies is not free healthcare, but smarter and better healthcare. But smarter and better are alien concepts to meme swallowing rightys. It is just so scary to do the right thing. Other countries have used our system as a model of what not to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mazon View Post
    Welfare ended with the Newt Revolution

    Ya ... That's why we have 50 million+ people on welfare .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope. Universal; health care has worked well in other countries. they cover everybody and do it at half our costs. Our medical system is a device to loot the people. As I pointed out a couple times, we would eliminate the VA, Medicare and Medicaid. Then the costs to workers would be gone. The money exists and it would be cheaper. But then, you are not to analtytical are you? Throw out a right wing stat like it is real and stop.

    You are old enough to know many presidential campaigns were arguing that our medical system will break the country. That is from Ikes time onward. Did you miss that? So doing nothing is disastrous. Obama tried and the Repubs sabotaged it over and over. This is not a new problem and it has to be addresed. You would rather close your eyes are scream about fake news numbers.
    Tell me and just how many of those countries have a population of over 330 million not counting illegals? I'll tell you none in fact UHC is so expensive England is trying to get out from under it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Tell me and just how many of those countries have a population of over 330 million not counting illegals? I'll tell you none in fact UHC is so expensive England is trying to get out from under it.
    Why? Their budget for healthcare is commensurate to the size of the population. They pay half per citizen that we do and get better care and all people covered. England is not dumping their system for ours. Ours is the laughing stock of the world. No other country is trying to emulate ours.

    When Taiwan wanted to establish healthcare for its citizens, theyt came to the US. They said it was a model of what not to do. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b021dd5a829047

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Why? Their budget for healthcare is commensurate to the size of the population. They pay half per citizen that we do and get better care and all people covered. England is not dumping their system for ours. Ours is the laughing stock of the world. No other country is trying to emulate ours.

    When Taiwan wanted to establish healthcare for its citizens, theyt came to the US. They said it was a model of what not to do.
    Well it's hard to debate someone who doesn't read (I didn't day they were dumping their system for ours! Only that they are trying to find a mix of both private and government.)

    And thinks he is more knowledgeable than the leading economists in this country.

    So all I can say sport is keep believing your utopian dreams.

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