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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    If we had a system that doesn't extract, concentrate, and redistribute societal wealth to the corporatist aristocracy you'd have a point.
    There you go making excuses for the inept and unwilling. As long as you do that, they'll never have a need to get better.

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    Banjofuck, posting from his outhouse, considers himself an eventual part of that corporate aristocracy.
    At the very least, he should donate that pus-ball that serves as his brain to medical science.
    We've got to find out how this shit happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Medicare for All
    This is free shit that somebody else has to pay for.

    Legalizing Marijuana
    As long as the dope is not paid for by taxpayers, this satisfies what I was asking for in the opening post.

    $15/hr minimum wage
    If the cost of my burger goes up to cover this, then it is free shit that somebody else pays for.

    Fighting Climate Change
    This is controversial agenda that I suspect will waste my tax dollars, but I am not aware of how this is free shit. Unless somebody can illustrate for me how this is free shit, this satisfies what I was asking for in the opening post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This is free shit that somebody else has to pay for.
    Everyone who draws a paycheck pays for Medicare-for-All because it's funded by payroll taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    As long as the dope is not paid for by taxpayers, this satisfies what I was asking for in the opening post.
    Why would the weed be paid for by taxpayers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    If the cost of my burger goes up to cover this, then it is free shit that somebody else pays for
    It won't. It hasn't before in the dozens of times the MW has been raised. In fact, 13 states all raised their minimum wages in 2014 and all 13 saw faster job growth in the aggregate than the 37 states that didn't raise their minimum wages.

    States That Raised Minimum Wage See Faster Job Growth, Report Says
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This is controversial agenda that I suspect will waste my tax dollars, but I am not aware of how this is free shit. Unless somebody can illustrate for me how this is free shit, this satisfies what I was asking for in the opening post.
    LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Everyone who draws a paycheck pays for Medicare-for-All because it's funded by payroll taxes.
    That's what I just said:

    This is free shit that somebody else has to pay for.
    Thanks though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Why would the weed be paid for by taxpayers?
    Hopefully it wouldn't, but if it becomes a prescription that other people pay for, it would be free shit.
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    Universal healthcare would provide all with care and cost half the price that we pay now. So you would not pay for it but get money back for it. Our present system is designed to loot the people. In that respect, it is efficient. Tax payers would pay less and not have the constant worry of what a catastrophic illness or accident coiuld do to their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    There you go making excuses for the inept and unwilling. As long as you do that, they'll never have a need to get better.
    I can see you're trapped in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Universal healthcare would provide all with care and cost half the price that we pay now. So you would not pay for it but get money back for it. Our present system is designed to loot the people. In that respect, it is efficient. Tax payers would pay less and not have the constant worry of what a catastrophic illness or accident coiuld do to their lives.
    And we're all already paying for everyone else's health"care", just foolishly and lootingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    And we're all already paying for everyone else's health"care", just foolishly and lootingly.
    That is why universal care would be cheaper. We would not need the VA, Medicare or Medicaid. . All that would go into universal health care. All that money that companies pay for health care would disappear too. People on medicare have paid all their lives for care. It is not free. We could eliminate health care "providers"too. Their business model is to deny the healthcare you paid for until you give up. That increases profits while making sick people and their families suiffer.

    Our system is the most expensive in the world by far. It is very lowly rated around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    I can see you're trapped in that.
    I'm not in the inept and unwilling group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    That is why universal care would be cheaper. We would not need the VA, Medicare or Medicaid. . All that would go into universal health care. All that money that companies pay for health care would disappear too. People on medicare have paid all their lives for care. It is not free. We could eliminate health care "providers"too. Their business model is to deny the healthcare you paid for until you give up. That increases profits while making sick people and their families suiffer.

    Our system is the most expensive in the world by far. It is very lowly rated around the world.
    People on Medicaid haven't paid a dime for what they get because some don't work and those that do make a low wage. How is that going to change? Better yet, why would those paying a lower amount get the same level of care as those of us paying a much higher amount?

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