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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Yeah, 5 bankruptcies, and cheating contractors and lawyers for decades. That is what the right seeks in a president. He is untrustworthy and a terrible liar. He is your right-wing icon. He breaks his deals for exercise.
    He’s had around 500 business ventures. Only a few bankruptcies (not personal bankruptcies) is a pretty good ratio, one that you could never dream of in your wildest imagination. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates have had numerous companies do the same. In conmparison, Clinton had Whitewater, a failed venture that ended in fraud and scandal, with 15 people convicted of more than 40 crimes, and one committing suicide.

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    Hillary Clinton would be so much better a president than this abomination...it is not even worth discussing.

    ANYONE still supporting this embarrassing piece of garbage, Donald Trump, is a traitor to America and to humanity in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    And yet his policies made him a better choice than Hillary Clinton's policies. The number one redeeming quality of Donald J. Trump is that he is NOT Hillary Clinton.
    That's not a trump quality, it could apply to anyone who isn't Hillary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    That's not a trump quality, it could apply to anyone who isn't Hillary.
    Yet it is redeeming in the context of an election and an office. It is also the only reason that he received many of his votes. Hillary was more than flawed, in the opinion of many who voted against her she was dangerous, some even believe her to be a criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    That's not a trump quality, it could apply to anyone who isn't Hillary.
    It could. But it didn't, did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    He’s had around 500 business ventures.
    What's your opinion of Trump "University"?

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    The Clinton organized crime family will escape justice because prosecuting them would be too embarrassing to the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Hillary was more than flawed, in the opinion of many who voted against her she was dangerous, some even believe her to be a criminal.
    Could you give some specifics? What would you say is the most dangerous thing about her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    Could you give some specifics? What would you say is the most dangerous thing about her?
    I cannot speak to the opinions of others. However her total inability to understand the total lack of care for SCI information would be the number one thing I would have gone to prison for when I worked in Intel in the US military and I believe is the number one reason for the death and imprisonment of US agents during the total dismantling of Humint in China at an unprecedented scale during her tenure as SOS. I've mentioned it and linked in another thread while talking about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Yet it is redeeming in the context of an election and an office. It is also the only reason that he received many of his votes. Hillary was more than flawed, in the opinion of many who voted against her she was dangerous, some even believe her to be a criminal.
    Yet we all knew trump is a criminal and people still voted for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    What's your opinion of Trump "University"?
    You mean that huge fraudulent enterprise that he had to pay $25 million to settle? trumpanzees don't care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Yet we all knew trump is a criminal and people still voted for him.
    Who's "we?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You mean that huge fraudulent enterprise that he had to pay $25 million to settle? trumpanzees don't care.
    Nope. Just like Hillbots don't care what she and her husband did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Yet we all knew trump is a criminal and people still voted for him.
    I have no evidence that Trump is a criminal. Though I believe that some people voted against him because they believed it. The reality is, Hillary was singularly the worst candidate in history, and she lost to, quite possibly, the second worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I have no evidence that Trump is a criminal. Though I believe that some people voted against him because they believed it. The reality is, Hillary was singularly the worst candidate in history, and she lost to, quite possibly, the second worst.
    You don’t feel Trump University was criminal behavior? The use of the funds from his charity?

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