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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali says otherwise, why do you think you know better than her? After all, you're a first world pampered American who has never travelled anywhere, least of all the Middle East. You can't even make a decent argument without resorting to swearing and copy/pasting Wikipedia articles which you never read anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasist View Post
    Lol, more trolling by the Men who Hate Women, carry on.
    Muslims do hate women, apparently, imbecile.

    Will you rise up against Islamic oppression of females? I am waiting.

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    Yeah why don't feminists harass Muslim women over what they wear like all the other enlightened people in society?
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Sikh women need to be banned from wearing their turban imo, bunch of backwards religious nuts.
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    I'm not sure that it's possible, but if it is, right wing conservative women are even more stupid than right wing conservative men.

    The support the very misogyny that oppresses them.

    Is it Stockholm Syndrome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Tom, don't be an ignorant little prick. You really need to stop going with all this daily sphincter release news, or outright opinion pieces.
    The day I take any advice from an obese incel like you will be a cold day in Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The day I take any advice from an obese incel like you will be a cold day in Hell.
    Read these again, Tom, and quit falling for liberal tricks.

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    How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them

    1. Walk Toward the Fire

    “The left knows this is war. And they know you are the enemy. You will be castigated. You will get punched. That’s the way it will go because that’s how the left wins: through intimidation and cruelty. You have to take the punch, you have to brush it off. You have to be willing to take the punch.”

    2. Hit First

    “Don’t take the punch first. Hit first. Hit hard. Hit where it counts. Mike Tyson used to say, “Everybody has a plan ‘til they get punched in the mouth.” That’s exactly correct. But throwing the first punch requires game-planning. Walking through the door, you have one shot – one! – to put someone down for the count from the beginning of a debate. If done properly, any debate on a single topic can be over within the first 30 seconds.”

    3. Frame Your Opponent

    “I have argued that the left’s entire playbook consists of a single play: characterizing the opposition. It’s incredibly effective. And the only way to get beyond character arguments is to frame your opponent – make it toxic for your opponent to slur you. Then, hopefully, you can move the debate to more substantive territory. This is the vital first step. It is the only first step…There is no way to convince someone that you don’t hate him or her. You can convince him or her, however, that your opposition is a liar and a hater.”

    4. Frame the Debate

    “It’s important that you neuter buzzwords quickly, because otherwise you will be arguing against nonsense terms that can be used against you. You can’t argue against empty terms. So don’t accept the premises of their arguments, which are largely buzzword based…It’s important that you neuter those buzzwords quickly, because otherwise you will be arguing against nonsense terms that can be used against you. You can’t argue against empty terms. So don’t accept the premises of their arguments, which are largely buzzword based…As a general matter, the left’s favorite three lines of attack are (1) you’re stupid; (2) you’re racist; (3) you’re corrupt. Donald Trump is supposedly stupid; Donald Trump is supposedly racist; Donald Trump is supposedly corrupt. Take away those lines of attack and watch the discomfort set in.”

    5. Spot Inconsistencies in the Left’s Argument

    “The left’s arguments are chock full of inconsistencies. Internal inconsistencies — inconsistencies that are inherent to the left’s general worldview. That’s because very few people on the left will acknowledge their actual agenda, which is quite extreme. Leftists prefer to argue half-measures in which they don’t truly believe…There are almost invariably unbridgeable inconsistencies in the left’s publicly stated positions that are at war with their actual fundamental principles. Your goal is to make the left admit once and for all what they believe about policy by exposing those inconsistencies.”

    6. Force Leftists to Answer Questions

    “This is really just a corollary of Rule #4. Leftists are only comfortable when they are forcing you to answer questions. If they have to answer questions, they begin to scratch their heads. The questions they prefer to ask are about your character; the questions they prefer not to answer are all of them. Instead, they like to dodge issues in favor of those character arguments.”

    7. Do Not Get Distracted

    “You may notice when arguing with someone on the left that every time you begin to make a point, that leftist begins shouting about Donald Trump. It’s like Leftist Tourette’s Syndrome. “Why did Obama blow out the budget?” “TRUMP!!!!!” Don’t be fooled. You don’t need to follow the idiotic rabbit down into his Trumpyy rabbit hole…Arguing with the left is like attempting to nail jello to the wall. It’s slippery and messy and a waste of resources. You must force them to answer the question.”

    8. You Don’t Have To Defend People on Your Side

    “Conservatives get trapped in this gambit routinely, because they figure that the enemy of their enemy is their friend: if the left is attacking someone, he must be worth defending. But that’s not true…Don’t follow people. Follow principle.”

    9. If You Don’t Know Something, Admit It

    “Don’t get caught in the trap of believing you have to know everything about everything. Your opponent will undoubtedly know something you don’t. It’s fair to simply state, “I didn’t know that, but I’ll be happy to research and get back to you.” Another side-note here: don’t bring up a topic with which you aren’t passingly familiar.”

    10. Let the Other Side Have Meaningless Victories

    “Leftists prize faux moderation above all else; by granting them a point or two, you can convince them that you aren’t a radical right-winger at all. After all, everyone can admit both parties are terrible!…If the left engages you on immigration reform, your answer should be that you are for immigration reform. Now, how do they define immigration reform? That’s the key question. But because you’ve always granted the premise that you like the idea of immigration reform, you don’t look like a naysayer off the bat…The conversation is meaningless until you force the left to define terms. Until then, we can all agree on useless platitudes.”



    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/20/11-rules-for-debating-a-leftist-from-ben-shapiro

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I'm not sure that it's possible, but if it is, right wing conservative women are even more stupid than right wing conservative men. The support the very misogyny that oppresses them. Is it Stockholm Syndrome?
    So you say. Yet liberal women seem complacent about real oppression of females - including murder, torture and rape - in Muslim-controlled countries.

    Is Sarah Jeong's misandry a concern for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Lol, more trolling by the Men who Hate Women, carry on.
    Men who hate women and can't get laid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Men who hate women and can't get laid.
    So you say, yet you know Tom is married and has sired children.

    Your total lack of concern for Muslim outrages against women is noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So you say, yet you know Tom is married and has sired children.

    Your total lack of concern for Muslim outrages against women is noted.
    Who said I was talking about Tom?

    Give us your suggestion on what feminists can do for Muslim women.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Who said I was talking about Tom?

    Give us your suggestion on what feminists can do for Muslim women.
    Read this excellent article in the Spectator by a British Muslim woman, it is a brilliant piece of writing. There should be far more vocal condemnation of burqas and niqabs by feminists, they have no place in a Western liberal society.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...32#post2532232

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
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    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...32#post2532232

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Read this excellent article in the Spectator by a British Muslim woman, it is a brilliant piece of writing. There should be far more vocal condemnation of burqas and niqabs by feminists, they have no place in a Western liberal society.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...32#post2532232
    She won't read that, Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    She won't read that, Tom.
    Why not?

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