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    Default Federal judge orders Trump to restart DACA even though DACA is NOT a law!!!

    DACA is just an executive order issued by obozo and to say it is binding on all future presidents is insane.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-restart-daca/

    aug 3 2018 A federal judge on Friday said the government must restart the entire DACA deportation amnesty, including accepting brand new applications — but gave the administration a chance to appeal before his ruling takes effect.

    The ruling by Judge John D. Bates is a major blow to President Trump, and creates even more confusion about his immigration policy.

    Judge Bates said Mr. Trump and his Homeland Security Department do have the power to revoke the Obama-era DACA program, but they cut too many corners in the way they tried to do it.

    He said the government needs to prove that it has considered the benefits to society of having illegal immigrants here and working, versus the government’s interest in enforcing the laws as written. He said Homeland Security failed to do that in its original revocation last September, and even after he gave it a chance to update its reasoning, it still failed to convince him.

    “The court sees no reason to change its earlier determination that DACA’s rescission was arbitrary and capricious,” he ruled.

    Other courts had already put the revocation on hold and ordered the government to renew applications of some 700,000 people who already had DACA status and who reapplied.

    But those courts had declined to restart the program in full, meaning brand new applications. Judge Bates’ order would do that.
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    Eh? Whether it is law (by statute) is rather irrelevant. The judiciary determines what is constitutional, not "what is passed by Congress" only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloé View Post
    Eh? Whether it is law (by statute) is rather irrelevant. The judiciary determines what is constitutional, not "what is passed by Congress" only.
    HAHAHA. Now that is truly the stupidest post in history.

    It matters immensely whether DACA is a law or not. And BTW - judges have no authority to decide what is constitutional. THINK, you silly twit.
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    Fuck this judge

    He is overstepping his bounds. He has no authority to do this. He can’t enforce it. Trump should laugh in his face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    DACA is just an executive order issued by obozo and to say it is binding on all future presidents is insane.
    It's not insane. The court simply said that 'because it has Obama's name on it' isn't a legal argument for getting rid of DACA. It forces trumpco to make the case that DACA didn't pay dividends.

    Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloé View Post
    Eh? Whether it is law (by statute) is rather irrelevant. The judiciary determines what is constitutional, not "what is passed by Congress" only.
    but its not a law by statute. Trump is literally just reversing the previous things done by the last admin and the judiciary is saying that they see no reason why he should do it (hence arbitrary).

    Weve gone from marbury vs madison where the judiciary decides what is constitutional to this standard where they decide what is good policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    but its not a law by statute. Trump is literally just reversing the previous things done by the last admin and the judiciary is saying that they see no reason why he should do it (hence arbitrary).

    Weve gone from marbury vs madison where the judiciary decides what is constitutional to this standard where they decide what is good policy.
    well said. it's a freaking XO. this is more judicial activism ( bullshit)
    He said the government needs to prove that it has considered the benefits to society of having illegal immigrants here and working, versus the government’s interest in enforcing the laws as writtenWTF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It's not insane. The court simply said that 'because it has Obama's name on it' isn't a legal argument for getting rid of DACA. It forces trumpco to make the case that DACA didn't pay dividends.

    Good luck with that.
    Trump doesn't have to give a reason for reversing an EXECUTIVE ORDER, you moron. EOs are not laws - they are just a policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Trump doesn't have to give a reason for reversing an EXECUTIVE ORDER, you moron. EOs are not laws - they are just a policy.
    It is amazing the conflation between law's passed and ephemeral XO's

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    well said. it's a freaking XO. this is more judicial activism ( bullshit)
    to paraphrase scalia it doesnnt have to be smart or something he agrees with it just has to be constitutional. The scary thing about the judiciary apporpriating more power for themselves is they are the branch that is least accountable to the people as they serve for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Trump doesn't have to give a reason for reversing an EXECUTIVE ORDER, you moron. EOs are not laws - they are just a policy.
    Clearly, he does. Especially when his action are considered 'arbitrary and capricious'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    to paraphrase scalia it doesnnt have to be smart or something he agrees with it just has to be constitutional. The scary thing about the judiciary apporpriating more power for themselves is they are the branch that is least accountable to the people as they serve for life.
    SC hasn't weighed in on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    but its not a law by statute. Trump is literally just reversing the previous things done by the last admin and the judiciary is saying that they see no reason why he should do it (hence arbitrary).

    Weve gone from marbury vs madison where the judiciary decides what is constitutional to this standard where they decide what is good policy.
    Incorrect. 'Because Obama did it' isn't a legal argument. They are free to make their case, which won't be easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Incorrect. 'Because Obama did it' isn't a legal argument. They are free to make their case, which won't be easy.
    thats the entire point. They shouldnt have to make the case. Once you do that the judiciary becomes a policy making body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It's not insane. The court simply said that 'because it has Obama's name on it' isn't a legal argument for getting rid of DACA. It forces trumpco to make the case that DACA didn't pay dividends.

    Good luck with that.
    Bogus ruling. Trump doesn’t have to follow it. Judge can’t force him

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