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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    You had healthcare insurance that didn't go up for ten years?

    Bull fucking shit. Not only are you a racist...you're a liar as well

    Fuck off
    So you know more about my situation that I do?

    How many of those you claimed to care for that didn't have coverage did you personally pay the premiums so they could get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Actually no. A lot of working people were priced out of healthcare.

    But what would you know?

    You get free healthcare in Russia
    How many of them did you personally provide with coverage since you claim to care so much about them having it?

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    Hello hvilleherb,

    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    It was working for those of us who were working.
    The cost was increasing faster than wages were increasing. That's not working. Nobody was happy with that except the billionaires getting super-rich off the for-profit health care industry.

    Even if you thought that was working for you, and you were working; before the PPACA you had no guarantee that you would not be fired for becoming to ill to work.

    And after your job is gone then there goes your insurance, too. Where was the guarantee that you would not be fired and lose insurance just because you became too ill to work (something which could happen to anybody?) And that did happen to many people. People lost everything they ever worked for, all of it taken away by the very rich. Just like a crook would say: 'Your money or you life.'

    Nobody who had that happen would say it was working for them.

    If that happened, and you lost your insurance, and you were still suffering from a prolonged condition, then the insurance companies would refuse to cover your 'preexisting condition.'

    I'm glad if that never happened to you.

    But it could have.

    That's why the for-profit health care industry was never a workable idea.

    That's why a socialist model has distinct advantages and guarantees over the capitalist model for health care.

    Obamacare fixed that.

    Maybe it wasn't ideal, but at least it fixed that.

    Now we can do better.

    We have learned that we can do better.

    They do better in other countries, and we can see that it is working for them.

    We need to make it work for us too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    So you know more about my situation that I do?

    How many of those you claimed to care for that didn't have coverage did you personally pay the premiums so they could get it?
    I know that insurance premiums have always gone up and that your claims of NOT having increases for ten years are lies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    I know that insurance premiums have always gone up and that your claims of NOT having increases for ten years are lies
    I pay the same for my premiums for my coverage as I did ten years ago. NOTHING.

    What you're saying you know would involve knowing more about me than you can possibly know. Just more grandstanding from a worthless left winger that support people that do nothing nor providing anything to society getting what I earn.

    I notice you refused to answer the second question. That mean I now know that you, while claiming to care for people, don't give any more of a shit about them than you accuse me of giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I pay the same for my premiums for my coverage as I did ten years ago. NOTHING.

    What you're saying you know would involve knowing more about me than you can possibly know. Just more grandstanding from a worthless left winger that support people that do nothing nor providing anything to society getting what I earn.

    I notice you refused to answer the second question. That mean I now know that you, while claiming to care for people, don't give any more of a shit about them than you accuse me of giving.
    So you get "free" healthcare?

    How does that work asshole?

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    Medicare for all in various forms...is supported by 65% of the population...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Medicare for all in various forms...is supported by 65% of the population...
    In other words, the freeloaders that won't do for themselves demand others be forced to do it for them?

    I have an idea. Find all those for which you claim to care that don't have coverage and personally fund it for them. If you won't do that, let them go without until you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In other words, the freeloaders that won't do for themselves demand others be forced to do it for them?

    I have an idea. Find all those for which you claim to care that don't have coverage and personally fund it for them. If you won't do that, let them go without until you do.

    threads like this require an education which you don't have. You should probably stop now and quit embarrassing yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    threads like this require an education which you don't have. You should probably stop now and quit embarrassing yourself
    You should probably stop being an Obama n-lover but I doubt you ever will. Pucker up, boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You should probably stop being an Obama n-lover but I doubt you ever will. Pucker up, boy.
    You should probably stop being a racist piece of shit...but that's not likely to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    You should probably stop being a racist piece of shit...but that's not likely to happen
    So now you're claiming racism means doing something that provides you and your family with coverage while expecting others to do the same?

    Identifying what you are isn't racist, either, BOY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You should probably stop being an Obama n-lover but I doubt you ever will. Pucker up, boy.
    Nope...I'm pointing out your obvious racism

    SCUM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Nope...I'm pointing out your obvious racism

    SCUM
    Nope, it's not racism to identify you as what you are and why you support certain things.

    MONKEY

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    Why are Democrats always asking those in the federal government for handouts?

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